Icelandic for Sword Worlders

[Timerover51]

According to the write up on the Sword Worlds in JTAS No. 18, the language used by them is:

The official language of the Sword Worlds is a variant of Icelandic,

A while back, I came across an Icelandic phrase book done by the US Army for the troops engaged in the occupation of Iceland during World War 2. It can be found and downloaded on the Internet at the following location. It is a US Government document, and therefore in the public domain.

https://archive.org/details/TM30-313Icelandic

I hope that those using the Sword Worlds will find it useful.

 

[Timerover51]

Are people finding this useful or not? If they are, there are a lot more US Army phrase books online that I could post the links too.

 

[Hemdian]

Are people finding this useful or not? If they are, there are a lot more US Army phrase books online that I could post the links too.

I haven't had much time to go over it in detail yet but it looks pretty useful (at least to those running campaigns in the Spinward Marches). Thanks.

As for others ... I don't suppose the US Army have one for Oynprith (Droyne language), Gvegh et al (Vargr languages), or the Vilani language?

 

[Timerover51]

I haven't had much time to go over it in detail yet but it looks pretty useful (at least to those running campaigns in the Spinward Marches). Thanks.

As for others ... I don't suppose the US Army have one for Oynprith (Droyne language), Gvegh et al (Vargr languages), or the Vilani language?

It depends on what you want to use as an equivalent. There are Hungarian phrase books, and Hungarian has only one slightly related language, that being Finnish. You could use that for Vilani. Otherwise, simply say that this is the language of "X" species and go with it.

I will make a list of phrase books that I can find and post it.

 

[Timerover51]

The following link might be useful for those who need a cross-over language for the characters and another group. It covers the Melanesian Pidgin English used in World War 2.

https://archive.org/details/MelanesianPidginEnglishLanguageGuide

 

[whulorigan]

There are Hungarian phrase books, and Hungarian has only one slightly related language, that being Finnish.

Estonian is also related to Finnish, and so ought to be distantly related to Hungarian as well (i.e. all three are Finno-Ugric Languages).

 

[Meteoric Assault]

Phrase book

That would be most useful... Thanks

 

[Limburger59]

I haven't had much time to go over it in detail yet but it looks pretty useful (at least to those running campaigns in the Spinward Marches). Thanks.

As for others ... I don't suppose the US Army have one for Oynprith (Droyne language), Gvegh et al (Vargr languages), or the Vilani language?

Why would I need a phrase book to speak Vargr? All I need to know is, "Bad Dog," "Fetch", and "Play Dead!"

 

[DonM]

Why would I need a phrase book to speak Vargr? All I need to know is, "Bad Dog," "Fetch", and "Play Dead!"

Wow. There are Vargr biker gangs in the Marches looking for you.

That being said, is there a phrasebook for Sumerian? That would work for Vilani... :smirk:

 

[Timerover51]

Wow. There are Vargr biker gangs in the Marches looking for you.

That being said, is there a phrasebook for Sumerian? That would work for Vilani... :smirk:

Yes, Don, there is a phrase book for Sumerian. However, it is written in German. There is no English translation.

 

[DonM]

Yes, Don, there is a phrase book for Sumerian. However, it is written in German. There is no English translation.

THAT is not really helpful. I'd have to use two phrasebooks at the same time. :rant:

 

[Timerover51]

THAT is not really helpful. I'd have to use two phrasebooks at the same time. :rant:

Well, discovering that did put a damper on my efforts to get a Master's Degree in Biblical Archaeology. I an not that great with modern languages. However, I do fine with Old English and Egyptian Hieroglyphics (just cannot manage a test in Egyptian). Those are both available in English grammars and phrase books. Presently working on Icelandic, which is viewed as close to Old Norse.

 

[JimMarn]

There are Comanche-English phrase books. I bring this up as Comanche and Aztec, along with Shoshoni, are all part of the Uto-Aztecian language family. I ordered the books through Barnes and Noble.

Or, were you looking for more runic languages ? Aztec is more pictograms.

 

[Timerover51]

Don, what are you looking for with your phrase books? That might help a tad.

 

[DonM]

Don, what are you looking for with your phrase books? That might help a tad.

An English to Sumerian phrase book would have some interesting usages for an old Traveller campaign.

 

[Timerover51]

An English to Sumerian phrase book would have some interesting usages for an old Traveller campaign.

I can do English to Middle Egyptian, that is the best that I can do.

 

[rancke]

An English to Sumerian phrase book would have some interesting usages for an old Traveller campaign.

I really, really do not think that it's is a good idea to propound that Ancient Sumerian is actually for real identical to Vilani. The implications are (IMO) all wrong. Any similarity between Vilani and Sumerian is one of those things (like the flat galaxy) that should be studiously ignored.


Hans

 

[BlackBat242]

An English to Sumerian phrase book would have some interesting usages for an old Traveller campaign.

I really, really do not think that it's is a good idea to propound that Ancient Sumerian is actually for real identical to Vilani. The implications are (IMO) all wrong. Any similarity between Vilani and Sumerian is one of those things (like the flat galaxy) that should be studiously ignored.


Hans

And that reaction is exactly the kind of response we would see from Solomani PR types in response to the merest suggestion that Vilani might be the source of anything in Terran history (cue certain theories of "ancient aliens").

Perfect for in-game conflict of ideologies!

:smirk: :CoW:

 

[DonM]

Understand that my favorite early Traveller campaign was run by a Jewish guy in the early 80s who opined that Sumerian culture was basically created by a small group of Vilani survivors who settled in ancient Sumeria, and started that culture, and that Abraham's move to Palestine was as a direct descendant of those founder.

So in his campaign, Judaism had some elements which preserved Vilani cultural elements. Of course, he left it vague, but used it to explain Vilani eating habits as what would result in kosher laws and rabbinic blessings.

So, Hans, you have a problem with the notion of a Sumerian/Vilani connection? Seems like an interesting angle; more interesting than the 'other home than Earth' idea for Homo Sapiens (never really saw a writeup on that I thought was interesting).

Back to the phrase books: Is there a link to the list?

 

[Timerover51]

Back to the phrase books: Is there a link to the list?

Are you referring to the phrase books that I have been downloading, or something else?