How to speak gamer.
- Thread starter The Thing
- Start date
Scene: Outside a building. PC party is pinned down by fire coming from a room that enemy are shooting out of the windows of.
One of the PCs fires the above into one of the windows. BANG! All fire from within ceases.
"Well, I guess that room's clean now!"
BlackBat242
SOC-14 1K
I posted this before, but couldn't find it to link the thread, so here it is again (and no, the writer is not me):
The P.A.W. - a new 20x42 cartridge and gun
Anthony G Williams
This article was first published in the November 2006 issue of The Cartridge Researcher, the journal of the European Cartridge Research Association.
Readers of my science-fiction novel Scales* will recall this gun featuring in it, and might like to see what it actually looks like!
Amended with additional information from the designer, Tony Neophytou, 30 August 2007
The choice in shoulder guns firing HE shells of at least 20 mm calibre continues to grow. Already available are some rifles such as the South African Mechem NTW which fires old cannon cartridges, namely the 20x82 (MG 151) and 20x110 (Hispano HS 404). Also being developed is the Barrett XM109 "Payload Rifle" in the same 25x59B calibre as is used by the XM307 ACSW (Advanced Crew Served Weapon) and the XM25 which fires shorter (approx 25x37B) ammunition. Already available is the RAG-30 from the Slovak Republic, an 11.7 kg rifle firing the Russian 30x29B grenade round, and lightweight Chinese 35mm weapons. And of course there are many shoulder guns for the western 40x46SR LV (Low Velocity) grenade round (and the more recent Medium Velocity loading of that cartridge), in the form of under-barrel launchers attached to rifles and stand-alone single-shot or six-shot revolvers, with at least one gun being developed for the 40x53SR "High Velocity" cartridge.
Now there is a new offering from South Africa; the Neopup P.A.W. (Personal Assault Weapon), also known as the PAW-20. This introduces its own 20x42 cartridge made by PMP – Denel Munitions. It is something of a hybrid, because it fires what are basically normal 20mm HEI cannon projectiles, but from a very small case to keep the velocity down. It is a direct-fire weapon, with (so far) no plans for the complex airburst fuzing technology used in the XM25. The principal advantage of the ammunition is that its higher muzzle velocity of 305 m/s and more aerodynamic projectiles permit a much flatter trajectory and shorter flight time than the usual 40mm LV round. At a range of 300 metres, for instance, the 20x42 projectile takes 1.07 seconds to reach the target, with a mid-range vertex (maximum trajectory height) of 1.4 metres. Comparable figures for the 40mm LV (76 m/s muzzle velocity) are 4.66 seconds and 26 metres. The new 40mm MV rounds (around 100-120 m/s) will approximately halve the LV's figures, but it will still be far more difficult to hit a point target with the 40mm shoulder-fired weapons. This ballistic performance gives the PAW-20 an effective range against point targets of 600m, with suppressive fire up to 800m and fire against area targets at up to 1,000m. Obviously, a laser rangefinder built into the sights would greatly enhance the first-round accuracy at long range.
The gun is also interesting. It is gas operated with a rotating bolt, and fed by a 7-round detachable box magazine (in the initial version this was single-stack but the latest model has a double-stack magazine in the interests of compactness). Another recent change has been the addition of a muzzle brake to compensate for muzzle flip and allow faster repeat shots. The barrel and action are designed to recoil about 75mm into the stock to soften the recoil blow. To enable this to happen, the pistol grip is on the right hand side of the gun, allowing the action to recoil past it. This feature also enables the gun to be telescoped slightly to make a more compact package for transportation, with the overall length reduced from 860mm to 785mm. Gun weight is 5.7 kg (12.6 lbs) which is a manageable weight for carrying. It can be fired from the left shoulder simply by shifting the butt over to that side, while keeping the hands in the same position.
To sum up, this weapon has a unique combination of attributes. Small and light enough to be carried instead of a rifle as a primary arm, it offers far more accuracy and rate of fire than any other weapon with comparable destructive effect, with the presumed exception of the XM25, which is likely to be far more expensive (both gun and ammunition) in view of its sophisticated electronic systems.
Below are some photos of the latest version, followed by the original publicity brochure.
* Tony Williams' site: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/
The P.A.W. - a new 20x42 cartridge and gun
Anthony G Williams
This article was first published in the November 2006 issue of The Cartridge Researcher, the journal of the European Cartridge Research Association.
Readers of my science-fiction novel Scales* will recall this gun featuring in it, and might like to see what it actually looks like!
Amended with additional information from the designer, Tony Neophytou, 30 August 2007
The choice in shoulder guns firing HE shells of at least 20 mm calibre continues to grow. Already available are some rifles such as the South African Mechem NTW which fires old cannon cartridges, namely the 20x82 (MG 151) and 20x110 (Hispano HS 404). Also being developed is the Barrett XM109 "Payload Rifle" in the same 25x59B calibre as is used by the XM307 ACSW (Advanced Crew Served Weapon) and the XM25 which fires shorter (approx 25x37B) ammunition. Already available is the RAG-30 from the Slovak Republic, an 11.7 kg rifle firing the Russian 30x29B grenade round, and lightweight Chinese 35mm weapons. And of course there are many shoulder guns for the western 40x46SR LV (Low Velocity) grenade round (and the more recent Medium Velocity loading of that cartridge), in the form of under-barrel launchers attached to rifles and stand-alone single-shot or six-shot revolvers, with at least one gun being developed for the 40x53SR "High Velocity" cartridge.
Now there is a new offering from South Africa; the Neopup P.A.W. (Personal Assault Weapon), also known as the PAW-20. This introduces its own 20x42 cartridge made by PMP – Denel Munitions. It is something of a hybrid, because it fires what are basically normal 20mm HEI cannon projectiles, but from a very small case to keep the velocity down. It is a direct-fire weapon, with (so far) no plans for the complex airburst fuzing technology used in the XM25. The principal advantage of the ammunition is that its higher muzzle velocity of 305 m/s and more aerodynamic projectiles permit a much flatter trajectory and shorter flight time than the usual 40mm LV round. At a range of 300 metres, for instance, the 20x42 projectile takes 1.07 seconds to reach the target, with a mid-range vertex (maximum trajectory height) of 1.4 metres. Comparable figures for the 40mm LV (76 m/s muzzle velocity) are 4.66 seconds and 26 metres. The new 40mm MV rounds (around 100-120 m/s) will approximately halve the LV's figures, but it will still be far more difficult to hit a point target with the 40mm shoulder-fired weapons. This ballistic performance gives the PAW-20 an effective range against point targets of 600m, with suppressive fire up to 800m and fire against area targets at up to 1,000m. Obviously, a laser rangefinder built into the sights would greatly enhance the first-round accuracy at long range.
The gun is also interesting. It is gas operated with a rotating bolt, and fed by a 7-round detachable box magazine (in the initial version this was single-stack but the latest model has a double-stack magazine in the interests of compactness). Another recent change has been the addition of a muzzle brake to compensate for muzzle flip and allow faster repeat shots. The barrel and action are designed to recoil about 75mm into the stock to soften the recoil blow. To enable this to happen, the pistol grip is on the right hand side of the gun, allowing the action to recoil past it. This feature also enables the gun to be telescoped slightly to make a more compact package for transportation, with the overall length reduced from 860mm to 785mm. Gun weight is 5.7 kg (12.6 lbs) which is a manageable weight for carrying. It can be fired from the left shoulder simply by shifting the butt over to that side, while keeping the hands in the same position.
To sum up, this weapon has a unique combination of attributes. Small and light enough to be carried instead of a rifle as a primary arm, it offers far more accuracy and rate of fire than any other weapon with comparable destructive effect, with the presumed exception of the XM25, which is likely to be far more expensive (both gun and ammunition) in view of its sophisticated electronic systems.
Below are some photos of the latest version, followed by the original publicity brochure.
* Tony Williams' site: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/
BlackBat242
SOC-14 1K
Well, I did once have a female Aslan whose favorite "close-combat" personal weapon was a RAM-grenade launcher! 
She believed in "if it is blown into small enough pieces, it won't bother you again".
She believed in "if it is blown into small enough pieces, it won't bother you again".
Well, I did once have a female Aslan whose favorite "close-combat" personal weapon was a RAM-grenade launcher!
She believed in "if it is blown into small enough pieces, it won't bother you again".
And you never sent The Blob after her?
BlackBat242
SOC-14 1K
Hey, I was running her... she was MY PC.
Icosahedron
SOC-14 1K
So what the PAW needs now is a scaled-down Backpack Damper Box and a couple of dozen Californium collapsing rounds! :toast: :devil:
Not to mention the optional suit of heavy battledress to give the user at least a snowflake's chance in hell of surviving....:devil:
Oh yeah, don't forget that in modern american military parlance, dropping bombs or other explosives on something is now referred to as "servicing the target". (No, I'm not making that up, unfortunately.)
So a plane no longer drops bombs on a building, an artillery piece no longer shells something, they both "service a target".
Since this thing fires a 20mm round that is just right for using on a room, in military parlance it would service the room. Hence, room service.
(Seriously, look up that "serviced the target" bit if you don't believe me, it's just the latest bit of PC bull$%!+ jargonism to creep into the military...)
pendragonman
Absent Friends Margrave
You say that like you think targets really don't need servicing.
They will after your done with that thing
.At least if you do it right. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
pendragonman
Absent Friends Margrave
That is one of my personal favorites
Andrew Boulton
The Adminator
Reminds me of the old joke...
