Galleys, which design system had them?
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Of course. Now I have to find my dead-tree edition of it.
Timerover51
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I assume that the "galley" being referred to is the area on a ship devoted to the preparation of food, and not the "galley", being an oared fighting ship. The USCG buoy tender Bramble had a galley with the dimensions of 15.5 feet by 15 feet, and was capable of feeding 80 men 3 meals a day. Those were not frozen dinners, but prepared from scratch. That should give you some idea of how large a galley might be. I have toured the galleys of a couple of the very large cruise ships, and they do occupy a fair amount of space, They are feeding about 5600 to 6000 persons on board, counting both crew and passengers, and carry sufficient food supplies for 14 days at sea, if on a 7 day cruise.
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Indeed.
Watch some "Deadliest Catch", or the opening scenes of "Bourne Identity" to see some functioning galleys on small commercial vessels.
Spinward Flow
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To be fair, in CT (LBB2 and LBB5), a small craft stateroom is ... 2 tons and costs MCr0.1 ... so you can make of that what you will.
A 2 dton Small Craft Stateroom is for relaxation, resting, and sleeping for one person or hot bunking two people, while a 2 dton Galley is for preparing food for at least 1 to 20 crew/passengers (these numbers might not be accurate or realistic, but they're from TNE and based on the ship designs). (and yes, I now wonder if that's where they got the size & price from either directly or inspirationally)To be fair, in CT (LBB2 and LBB5), a small craft stateroom is ... 2 tons and costs MCr0.1 ... so you can make of that what you will.
Now, I did do some math when I was interested in getting some basic types of answers. A 2 dton Galley is a 3m x 3m x 3m space. When I did the conversion from meters to feet/yards for comparison with Galleys of a similar size on military ships, I got 25 - 30 crew/passengers serviced by one Galley for a month, depending on food stores on the ship and the time expected to be at sea. My research wasn't very deep, but I felt I did enough to get the information I needed for my own use to convert to a week spent in jump space and some time spent getting to & from the jump point or spending some time elsewhere in a system before going to the space port or leaving the system.
Just crunching numbers, the Bramble galley would be roughly 5 dT for 80 men or 1 dTon of “galley” per 16 men.
Timerover51
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That is correct for the Bramble, but careful scaling that down.
kilemall
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Reading through my newly acquired Starship Operations book, there is a snippet and illustration of a standard food prep built into most staterooms. It includes a pop out table.
That would take care of the mid passengers and crew, still needs a steward galley- too many high passengers per steward for individual cook in quarters. Could be tucked into a stewards stateroom, same way med bays could be part of medic stateroom.
That would take care of the mid passengers and crew, still needs a steward galley- too many high passengers per steward for individual cook in quarters. Could be tucked into a stewards stateroom, same way med bays could be part of medic stateroom.
ANNIC NOVA had one, with associated lounge/mess (convertible into a grav-ball court).
Thanks for clarifying this...
I really was thinking on birremes and trirremes and was up to advise reading the naval ships rules for MT apepared on several Challenge magazines.
Luckily, I didn't skip your comment this time...
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