FFE CT Reprints

[Ishtar]

I got a copy of the FFE Reprint of Classic Books 0-8 via snail mail a coupla weeks ago, and it made my day b/c it was signed by Marc on July 10th.
Thanks Marc...
If you're out there reading this somewhere...
Did anyone else get one of these?
If not, now you know they're available!
I'm now accepting thanks and general praise for this information...
--Courtney

 

[William]

Originally posted by Empress Nicholle:
I got a copy of the FFE Reprint of Classic Books 0-8 via snail mail a coupla weeks ago, and it made my day b/c it was signed by Marc on July 10th.
Thanks Marc...
If you're out there reading this somewhere...
Did anyone else get one of these?
If not, now you know they're available!
I'm now accepting thanks and general praise for this information...
--Courtney

Heh, won't speak for anyone else, but I will never sell my nowhere near mint copy of the Traveller Book hardback as it has both Marc and Loren's autographs. I hope to get Mr. Chadwick and Mr. Harshman's autographs on it as well. It's too, well, _used_ to ever be much of a collectable; but I hope my son will enjoy it.

William

 

[kafka47]

I agree, with you I wish that Marc would sign more of the reprints.

Or at least if he could start adding extras like he did for 2nd reprint that were from the GDW archive. That I think would perk interest again in the reprints. Furthermore, because of their irregular deliveries my FLGS have stopped ordering them en masse and rather sought custom orders. So if this FFE marketing strategy, I don't think that it very good for Traveller in long run. As people will pass Traveller by and collect other things.

 

[MichaelL65]

Well, I have all the reprints (except the Aliens one - yet) and I really enjoy them. Since I basicly gave away my handful of LBBs to the local used bookstore a few years ago when I was desperate for some cash (they gave me like $1 each), it was a good way to rebuild my collection and get several "books" I hadn't had to begin with. Reminded me why I liked the game.

Personally I much prefer the mechanics of the T20 system over the 2D6 CT system, and there always was several things that I felt were rather on the wierd side - some (like shotguns and metal swords in a SF game) make more sense many years later, and some (1970's era computer power/size ratio) still don't. But back in the mid-80's it was the best there was. As far as I'm concerned, in T20 form it still is today.

 

[Ishtar]

Originally posted by MichaelL65:
[Personally I much prefer the mechanics of the T20 system over the 2D6 CT system,
I like it that way too. The TNE system wasn't too bad, either. But I like the d20 best.


and there always was several things that I felt were rather on the wierd side - some (like shotguns and metal swords in a SF game) make more sense many years later,
I always thougt that things like that were what made Traveller cool. Besides, I think LBB 1 says something like: the best way to kill will still be a powerful dose of kinetic energy

and some (1970's era computer power/size ratio) still don't. But back in the mid-80's it was the best there was. As far as I'm concerned, in T20 form it still is today. [/QB]

For me, it's the only space game. Many scifi games have come and gone but Traveller is one of the Big 3 that have withstood the test of time (the other two being cthulhu and d&d) oh and gurps of course.
--Courtney

 

[Bill Coffin]

The FFE reprints are a godsend. They easily deliver more bang for your buck in terms of sheer content, and they're a great way to patch any holes in your collection of LBBs from the old days.

I recently picked up the first two volumes of the JTAS reprints. Man, that's some gooooood reading. Next month, I'm going to cop a copy of the Adventures and Double Adventures reprints, methinks. Eventually, I'll grab them all.

CT might be old, but what the heck -- I'd rather play this than 99% of the other games on the market right now. For this old-timer, the old-school feel of the game fits like a glove. I am growing more and more discontent with the modern trend in RPG design to create ever more specific game settings. Unless it's a licensed setting being brought to the RPG format (ala Star Wars or Buffy), I find that most of these carefully fleshed out settings are more constraining that inspiring. Bleh. Give me a wide open galaxy, a loosely defined Imperium, an even more loosely defined set of surrounding states, cool world generation mechanics, and I'm good to go.

 

[LostWorldsMike]

Originally posted by Bill Coffin:
CT might be old, but what the heck -- I'd rather play this than 99% of the other games on the market right now. For this old-timer, the old-school feel of the game fits like a glove. I am growing more and more discontent with the modern trend in RPG design to create ever more specific game settings. Unless it's a licensed setting being brought to the RPG format (ala Star Wars or Buffy), I find that most of these carefully fleshed out settings are more constraining that inspiring. Bleh. Give me a wide open galaxy, a loosely defined Imperium, an even more loosely defined set of surrounding states, cool world generation mechanics, and I'm good to go.

Amen to that! I'm a make-it-up-myself kinda guy, and there are few things better for that than CT!

 

[The Hinterworlds Rambler]

Well Said, Good Bill Coffin!

While were on the topic, where can I get books
0-8? Do I have to use (the much hated by me) "Pay-Pal?"

 

[Bill Coffin]

Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
While were on the topic, where can I get books 0-8? Do I have to use (the much hated by me)"Pay-Pal?"

You should be able to order any of the Far Future reprints from your local game shop. Here in New York City, the Compleat Strategist carries multiple copies of most of them. I know that the Gamer's Realm in West Windsor, NJ also carries them. There's definitely a word-of-mouth campaign about these, and stores are carrying them.

 

[Ishtar]

Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
Well Said, Good Bill Coffin!

While were on the topic, where can I get books
0-8? Do I have to use (the much hated by me) "Pay-Pal?"

I think you can also order them by snail mail, correct me if I am wrong.
--Courtney P.

 

[far-trader]

Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
Well Said, Good Bill Coffin!

While were on the topic, where can I get books
0-8? Do I have to use (the much hated by me) "Pay-Pal?"

Afternoon Baron. If you mean the BFB (big floppy book) reprint click here you can do a snail mail order by clicking the Printed Form link just under it. If its the LBBs (little black books of course ) you're after that will be a little trickier. I can hook you up with 1-6 for a reasonable price plus shipping and can work with you on type of payment. Drop me a line at far_trader_mail at yahoo dot ca if you're interested.

Edit - OK I just clicked the Printed Form link and it went nowhere helpful so I don't know what to say, but yeah talk to your local shop and have them get it could work.

Edit - I thought QLI used to have them in stock too but can't find them now so I may be wrong about that.

Edit - OK that bites, even the PayPal link on FFE page is busted (hmm, well not broken but very slow), be right back with MM's eBay link for you...

Edit - Hmm, thought I could get his eBay merchant page and you could contact him through there but nope. I have his email but would rather not just spalsh it here for all to see. I do seem to recall that some of the early BFBs are OOP at the moment.

 

[The Hinterworlds Rambler]

Many Thanks, Citizens!
I actually found it online at some place called Do Or Dice. www.doordice.com For $23.00! All and all, with shipping it still came out to $30.00 but I get it in 2 days! (psyched) Does anyone have any comment as to durable a volume it is? Ive noticed that the pages are rather thin, and I assume must be, but how is the binding? I may have to get the supplements too...

Selling the books at a bookstore, Lord Michael?
Here is what happened to some of mine... I foolishly lent some to a person that worked at kinkos copies in NYC, an aquaintance of mine. I wouldnt have done anything so foolish, but It had been a long time since I had met another Traveller fan. This jackass made off with Book 6, Citizens of the Imperium, Spinward Marches, and the crime of crimes, Forms and Charts! And to boot, He DISSASSEMBLED (!) my Books 4 and 5 in order to copy them!!! Grrr... and i had a full set of LBBS!

Compleat Strategist! Ahh... me old stomping ground! Do you mean the one on 33rd? or the one (i don't know if its still there) on 57th? What I do know for sure is that the black guy with the cowboy boots is a tremendously good natured fellow, aside from his initial standoffishness. He has an encylopaedic knowledge of ANYTHING related to gaming, and he gets the same glint in his eye like me when we talk of the old days... (SPI Gaming... Gamma World... ) I especially enjoy digging behind the racks of current releases for some old gems, long forgotten... I suggest bringing a dust mask... I often just used to go to overhear conversations. While in the 33rd Street Area, I can recommend enough Jim Handy's Comic Universe, The Technology and Design Library of the NYPL (lots of nasa video footage), and Bird and 33rd (if you like birds, that is, I don't enjoy owning them but they are fun to look at, what?)

 

[Bill Coffin]

Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
[QB] Many Thanks, Citizens!
I actually found it online at some place called Do Or Dice. www.doordice.com For $23.00! All and all, with shipping it still came out to $30.00 but I get it in 2 days! (psyched) Does anyone have any comment as to durable a volume it is? Ive noticed that the pages are rather thin, and I assume must be, but how is the binding? I may have to get the supplements too...

I've been working with my CLassic Books and Classic Supplements reprints pretty hard and they are standing up admirably. The binding seems prety solid, I'm happy to report.

Compleat Strategist! Ahh... me old stomping ground! Do you mean the one on 33rd? or the one (i don't know if its still there) on 57th? What I do know for sure is that the black guy with the cowboy boots is a tremendously good natured fellow, aside from his initial standoffishness. He has an encylopaedic knowledge of ANYTHING related to gaming, and he gets the same glint in his eye like me when we talk of the old days... (SPI Gaming... Gamma World... ) I especially enjoy digging behind the racks of current releases for some old gems, long forgotten... I suggest bringing a dust mask... I often just used to go to overhear conversations. While in the 33rd Street Area, I can recommend enough Jim Handy's Comic Universe, The Technology and Design Library of the NYPL (lots of nasa video footage), and Bird and 33rd (if you like birds, that is, I don't enjoy owning them but they are fun to look at, what?)

Yep, that'd be the one on 33rd, between Madison and 5th. What a great place that is. Cramped as a WWII submarine, and simply chock full of everything a gamer needs. That fellow you spoke of still works there; he's a nice guy indeed. As for Jim Hanley's Comic Universe, that's also a great place to go, especially if you want something obscure, like an old Heavy Metal hardback or something (I recently copped a copy of "Hord" there, much to my glee). Between that, the Strat, and the Game Stop a block west, I call that section of 33rd "Temptation Alley."

 

[EvilDrGanymede]

Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
Many Thanks, Citizens!
I actually found it online at some place called Do Or Dice. www.doordice.com For $23.00! All and all, with shipping it still came out to $30.00 but I get it in 2 days! (psyched) Does anyone have any comment as to durable a volume it is? Ive noticed that the pages are rather thin, and I assume must be, but how is the binding? I may have to get the supplements too...

Did you get the book in the end? Were the company reliable?

 

[plop101]

Just jumped in from my quarterly recon of the FFE site. There seems to be some construction going on.
The snail mail order page link is broke/down. Still, it seems to be organized a little differently than the last time I looked at it.

Dare I ask if there will be announcements in the not to distant future about upcoming offerings?

 

[EvilDrGanymede]

Originally posted by plop101:
Just jumped in from my quarterly recon of the FFE site. There seems to be some construction going on.

I wish they'd actually get a proper HTML text-based webpage up there, not this stupid 'click on endless images' thing... heck, it's so damn primitive that it looks like the sort of website someone might have designed in the 1970s... I'm sure it must put some people off because it's so damn clunky and not user friendly.

 

[Traveller]

Originally posted by Evil Dr Ganymede:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by plop101:
Just jumped in from my quarterly recon of the FFE site. There seems to be some construction going on.

I wish they'd actually get a proper HTML text-based webpage up there, not this stupid 'click on endless images' thing... heck, it's so damn primitive that it looks like the sort of website someone might have designed in the 1970s... I'm sure it must put some people off because it's so damn clunky and not user friendly. </font>[/QUOTE]But isn't that in keeping with the fact that we're talking about a game that was created in the '70s and still has an extremely active group supporting it?

On a serious note though, the click on endless images thing is a no-no in web design I believe, unless you have Alt="whatever" embedded in the code so Lynx users can see it. In revising my (non-Traveller) website, I did what I could to avoid that problem. I checked it out in a Lynx style viewer, and it came out fairly well. I don't recall the post, but someone I believe said that Marc was not all that web-savvy, which may explain the clunkiness of the site.

 

[EvilDrGanymede]

Originally posted by Strephon Alkhalikoi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Evil Dr Ganymede:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by plop101:
Just jumped in from my quarterly recon of the FFE site. There seems to be some construction going on.

I wish they'd actually get a proper HTML text-based webpage up there, not this stupid 'click on endless images' thing... heck, it's so damn primitive that it looks like the sort of website someone might have designed in the 1970s... I'm sure it must put some people off because it's so damn clunky and not user friendly. </font>[/QUOTE]But isn't that in keeping with the fact that we're talking about a game that was created in the '70s and still has an extremely active group supporting it?

</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe, but it's hardly going to attract new people looking like that. It might be made in the 1970s, but it's a game about the far future - They could at least make some effort to make it look the part!

At least the QLI site looks decent

 

[hunter]

Originally posted by Evil Dr Ganymede:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by plop101:
Just jumped in from my quarterly recon of the FFE site. There seems to be some construction going on.

I wish they'd actually get a proper HTML text-based webpage up there, not this stupid 'click on endless images' thing... heck, it's so damn primitive that it looks like the sort of website someone might have designed in the 1970s... I'm sure it must put some people off because it's so damn clunky and not user friendly. </font>[/QUOTE]Marc is aware that the Far Future site needs to be redone. Part of what he is waiting for is me to finish up the coding behind this site. I will then adapt parts of it for the Far Future site making it easier for Marc to add stuff and update it.

The 'look' won't be the same, but the scripts running everything will be. That's the nice part about this system. I can change the 'look' by simply replacing a few files.

Hunter

 

[EvilDrGanymede]

Originally posted by hunter:
The 'look' won't be the same, but the scripts running everything will be. That's the nice part about this system. I can change the 'look' by simply replacing a few files.
[/QB]

Cool. Sounds like it'll be a vast improvement on the existing FFE site then