Expedition to galactic rim.

[Blue Ghost]

Someone mentioned about a Solomani expedition to the galactic rim somewhere, and, just out of curiosity, I looked up the width of the galaxy just to get a rough estimate of how long it might take. NASA states it's roughly 1 quintillion Km, which translates roughly to 100,000 light years. This roughly translates to 30,000 parsecs. Half that, and from the center of the galaxy to the edge is 15,000 parsecs/hexes. Checking various images shows Sol being about 2/3 that distance from the center of the galaxy (my own guess). This means that Terra/Earth is about ten-thousand hexes from the edge of the Milky Way.

6 hexes / two weeks
=> 10000 / 6 = 1666 and 2/3 weeks
=> It would take Thirty Two years, at best, using jump six vessels, to reach the edge of the galaxy.

A sector is roughly 40 hexes (parsecs), which means that there are 250 full fledged sectors that an expedition must traverse in terms of distance, before coming to the galactic edge.

That's one long campaign.

 

[Hemdian]

That sounds like the General Turokan (sp?) expedition that was hosted on the Zhodani Core Route website. Unfortunately that website has been offline for some time.

 

[Enoki]

Not to mention that as you move towards the edge systems would thin out considerably and you'd be travelling mostly across a void or rift and have to work out the logisitics of that too....

 

[Blue Ghost]

That sounds like the General Turokan (sp?) expedition that was hosted on the Zhodani Core Route website. Unfortunately that website has been offline for some time.

I actually came across something like it a few days back. The rim expedition looked awfully short and brief, based on my own knowledge of astronomy, which is what triggered the interest. The map of known Traveller space is a mere tiny patch of the galaxy, and the map I saw for the posted campaign had something like 7 or 8 sectors distance to the edge of the galaxy. It just didn't seem right to me, so I double checked.

Now, I found a different map referencing the same thing about 30 seconds ago as I typed this post.

Link; http://web.archive.org/web/20030406...com/traveller_core_route/proj004/proj004.html

Hemdian, I came across a thread where you offered to host the files for this campaign back in 2009. Was the campaign every entirely laid out? What was involved?

 

[Darkwing]

Sounds like a Rim expedition would need to use a huge ship with lots of crew, rotating who's frozen and who's awake so nobody has to experience more than maybe 5 years awake.

 

[BeRKA]

You can find the sectors mapped along the route at the Traveller wiki and at the Traveller Map.

 

[Hemdian]

Hemdian, I came across a thread where you offered to host the files for this campaign back in 2009. Was the campaign every entirely laid out? What was involved?

To be honest I never looked that closely at that part. It was hosted on Clifford Linehan's site which was primarily focused on the Zhodani core route expeditions (hence the website's name). It was the core routes that I was initially interested in. But it looks like a series of sector files for Galactic (a DOS program) ... which may or may not contain information additional to raw UPPs ... and a rollup of same.

Clifford pulled his site in response to Mongoose Publishing's initial Traveller copyright policy document (when they first won the rights). If you remember back then it wasn't very fan friendly to begin with and Clifford's interpretation was that he wasn't allowed to continue having a Traveller site.

Mongoose soon revised their position and issued clarifications. So Clifford could have reinstated his site ... except then Geocities (his web host) decided to close. I offered to host Clifford's website on my site but he declined because he wanted to continue hosting it himself (he just needed to find a new host he liked).

Time passed but nothing's poped up. I guess he's moved on. I should probably recontact him and give him a nudge, but with all the other projects I'm working on I've been spread pretty thin.

 

[Timerover51]

Hmm, might have to look at how far to the Rim the Solomani Rim extends in sectors. I have the book. Hmmm, one sector shows up as delineated. So once past that, things are wide open. Still might be able to put the Bald Space Rovers in the game, along with New Texas, Fenris, and a few other of Piper's creations. Might even be able to work Mesklin in, as with gravitics, that becomes a bit more endurable, at least in a camp and ship.

 

[rancke]

Hmm, might have to look at how far to the Rim the Solomani Rim extends in sectors. I have the book. Hmmm, one sector shows up as delineated. So once past that, things are wide open. Still might be able to put the Bald Space Rovers in the game, along with New Texas, Fenris, and a few other of Piper's creations. Might even be able to work Mesklin in, as with gravitics, that becomes a bit more endurable, at least in a camp and ship.

I placed Fenris on 875-496 in Five Sisters Subsector. Or rather, I was going to run the adventure from Four-Day Planet and made 875-496 a copy of Fenris with suitable substitutions for the shipping line and the off-world wax buyers etc.. The UWP is E888421-7, which I thought fit the four-day planet very well. It also explained why a world with physical stats 888 only had 20,000 inhabitants. The locals called it Janus for its very different day and night aspects.

I don't think I ever got around to running the adventure.


Hans

 

[Blue Ghost]

To be honest I never looked that closely at that part. It was hosted on Clifford Linehan's site which was primarily focused on the Zhodani core route expeditions (hence the website's name). It was the core routes that I was initially interested in. But it looks like a series of sector files for Galactic (a DOS program) ... which may or may not contain information additional to raw UPPs ... and a rollup of same.

Clifford pulled his site in response to Mongoose Publishing's initial Traveller copyright policy document (when they first won the rights). If you remember back then it wasn't very fan friendly to begin with and Clifford's interpretation was that he wasn't allowed to continue having a Traveller site.

Mongoose soon revised their position and issued clarifications. So Clifford could have reinstated his site ... except then Geocities (his web host) decided to close. I offered to host Clifford's website on my site but he declined because he wanted to continue hosting it himself (he just needed to find a new host he liked).

Time passed but nothing's poped up. I guess he's moved on. I should probably recontact him and give him a nudge, but with all the other projects I'm working on I've been spread pretty thin.

I think he passed away a few years back, or at least I remember reading something to that effect when cruising one of the sites pertaining to the subject.

 

[Nathan Brazil]

There is also a expedition to the Perseus Arm of the Milky Way in a manner similar to the Zhodani Core expeditons. I cannot find the reference but I am pretty sure it was in a printed book. Does anyone remember where this is from?

 

[mike wightman]

It is mentioned in the Solomani and Aslan alien module for MT.

 

[GypsyComet]

I think he passed away a few years back, or at least I remember reading something to that effect when cruising one of the sites pertaining to the subject.

The General is gone, yes. The passion for the Core Expedition work kept him going and occupied, but in the end his problems got him. Clifford Linehan took that work and cleaned it up for web publication.

 

[77topaz]

That sounds like the General Turokan (sp?) expedition that was hosted on the Zhodani Core Route website. Unfortunately that website has been offline for some time.

That one went rimward and trailward. The directly rimward one was a Solomani expedition, which I think was called Operation Perseus. I don't think the Solomani one has actually been charted.

 

[77topaz]

You can find the sectors mapped along the route at the Traveller wiki and at the Traveller Map.

TravellerMap only holds the first few sectors (the ones within the Charted Space rectangle), while the wiki has all the sector and subsector names (each one of the subsectors' names starts with its position-letter and resembles the sector name (well, excluding the very furthest few at the actual edge of the galaxy, which also have strange names), which is a bit unrealistic), each sector with a separate page, but nothing else.

 

[LiNeNoiSe]

TravellerMap only holds the first few sectors (the ones within the Charted Space rectangle), while the wiki has all the sector and subsector names (each one of the subsectors' names starts with its position-letter and resembles the sector name (well, excluding the very furthest few at the actual edge of the galaxy, which also have strange names), which is a bit unrealistic), each sector with a separate page, but nothing else.

I've got the Galactic files. I could upload them here if I could figure out how and if I knew the Baron's estate wouldn't mind.