mike wightman
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Do you mean use FF&S to build ships with thruster plates instead of HEPlaR, or convert MT ships to FF&S designs?
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jfetters
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A little of both, actually. Taking a MT design (let's say the stats for the Vigilante), and porting them over to the TNE format - but using the Thruster Plates instead of HEPlaR.
Where I am going with this is ships that are TNE-compatible (i.e., you can use them in BL scenarios) but are not the LHyd thirsty drives from FF&S.
This is one of the areas where I am not as gear-headed as I should be. Aside from the huge fuel differences, what else changes?
Where I am going with this is ships that are TNE-compatible (i.e., you can use them in BL scenarios) but are not the LHyd thirsty drives from FF&S.
This is one of the areas where I am not as gear-headed as I should be. Aside from the huge fuel differences, what else changes?
I think most TNE designs would have been done using HePlaR as this was the normal paradigm in this incarnation. Thruster plates were presented as an option.
With the designs I did I did not find the ships to be too thirsty. The exception being ships with high jump capability like the AHLs. If they used their jump drive for the full J5 they then did need a fuel source desperately.
With the designs I did I did not find the ships to be too thirsty. The exception being ships with high jump capability like the AHLs. If they used their jump drive for the full J5 they then did need a fuel source desperately.
jfetters
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Oh, absolutely. I am just trying to see how I can reconcile an MT-designed ship and use it as-is without completely redesigning for HEPlaR in order to use it in a Brilliant Lances/Battle Rider scenario.
So that means using the FF&S rules to design a ship with Thruster plates instead of HEPlaR drives.
From looking at the BL rules, it seems like the only difference is one of tracking fuel consumption.
So that means using the FF&S rules to design a ship with Thruster plates instead of HEPlaR drives.
From looking at the BL rules, it seems like the only difference is one of tracking fuel consumption.
mike wightman
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T4 introduced the compromise that at lower TLs HEPlaR is used (TL10), and at higher TLs thruster plates are used (TL11).
You'll find you have to put bigger power plants into thruster equipped ships, but the saving in fuel compensates for that.
If you stick to thrusters only you can still use FF&S to build the ships and BL to fight the battles.
You'll find you have to put bigger power plants into thruster equipped ships, but the saving in fuel compensates for that.
If you stick to thrusters only you can still use FF&S to build the ships and BL to fight the battles.
jfetters
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Thanks for that info, Sigg. I never actually purchased FFS v2, so I didn't know about the T4 compromise. Sounds pretty reasonable.
But yeah, I started playing around with a couple designs yesterday (a Beowulf, I think) and got some interesting results extrapolating from the Type A described in Knightfall and making it into a FFSv1 vessel with Thruster plates.
But yeah, I started playing around with a couple designs yesterday (a Beowulf, I think) and got some interesting results extrapolating from the Type A described in Knightfall and making it into a FFSv1 vessel with Thruster plates.
Rupert Boleyn
SOC-12
TNE had auto-docs, but they were quite limited if there was no doctor around. They gave a bonus to a doctor's skill, and will work to keep a patient stable, or to resuscitate one if necessary, but they didn't perform treatment on their own.
However, the Medical skill was allowed to robot brains, so a fairly simple robot module could be added to an autodoc if you wanted something more capable. This would cost, at TL13, about MCr0.35-0.040 and would have Medical(Surgery)-14, and thus Diagnosis-9 and first Aid-9. This is about equivalent to Medical-5 and Int-5 in CT/MT. For about MCr2 you could get Medical(Surgery)-16, Diagnosis-11 and first Aid-11 (CT/MT Medical-5, Int-7).
Edit: Of course, pre-Virus even such a system wouldn't be truely intelligent - they are merely very skilled expert systems. Post-Virus, all something like this needs is wheels and you have a Doc-Bot from Paranoia.
Starship autodoc, LBB 8 and 2 design
Designed by Kurega Gikur, produced by General products.
Top end Autodoc 60400-04-PP222-8EC5(F) Cr1,830,910
Doc unit: 434 kg 150 liters +/-
Total displacement ½ dton
Fuel=6 Duration= 1 TL=15
30/75 (none)
4 v. light arms with 20 touch sensors ( +sen )
2 visual sensors ( +tele +LI +PIR +AIR ), 2 audio sensors ( +sen ), 2 olfactory sensors ( +sen )
1 voder,
2 magnetic sensors (MRI), 2 radiation sensors, 2 mass sensors, 2 neutrino sensors, 1 gravitic imager
1 scanning electron microscope, 1 genetic sequencer
4 spotlights, 1 speaker, 1 power interface, 1 brain interface, 1 program interface
1 radio (5km)
1 holo recorder (3D), 1 holo display (3D)
1 mechanical package, 1 electronic package
1 medical package
1 Respirator/compressor that charges one six liter oxygen tank and one, six liter mixed atmosphere tank.
Expanded Pharmacy
electronic circuit protection
Software
Science-2, Medical-4
Electronic-2
Once the patient is placed on the bed the robotic arms immediately place the sensors and auto injector in the correct places. The unit will always ask permission for treatments before performing them but will act if no answer is given.
The unit is designed to work off starship power but can function on an internal fuel cell for 24 hours. In the most extreme emergencies an alarm will sound, a lid will close and the unit will become a medical low berth and a dialog box on the main display will read , “ Situation critical seek expert medical assistance! ”
Designed by Kurega Gikur, produced by General products.
Top end Autodoc 60400-04-PP222-8EC5(F) Cr1,830,910
Doc unit: 434 kg 150 liters +/-
Total displacement ½ dton
Fuel=6 Duration= 1 TL=15
30/75 (none)
4 v. light arms with 20 touch sensors ( +sen )
2 visual sensors ( +tele +LI +PIR +AIR ), 2 audio sensors ( +sen ), 2 olfactory sensors ( +sen )
1 voder,
2 magnetic sensors (MRI), 2 radiation sensors, 2 mass sensors, 2 neutrino sensors, 1 gravitic imager
1 scanning electron microscope, 1 genetic sequencer
4 spotlights, 1 speaker, 1 power interface, 1 brain interface, 1 program interface
1 radio (5km)
1 holo recorder (3D), 1 holo display (3D)
1 mechanical package, 1 electronic package
1 medical package
1 Respirator/compressor that charges one six liter oxygen tank and one, six liter mixed atmosphere tank.
Expanded Pharmacy
electronic circuit protection
Software
Science-2, Medical-4
Electronic-2
Once the patient is placed on the bed the robotic arms immediately place the sensors and auto injector in the correct places. The unit will always ask permission for treatments before performing them but will act if no answer is given.
The unit is designed to work off starship power but can function on an internal fuel cell for 24 hours. In the most extreme emergencies an alarm will sound, a lid will close and the unit will become a medical low berth and a dialog box on the main display will read , “ Situation critical seek expert medical assistance! ”
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