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Economic Disaster

Originally posted by the Bromgrev:
I agree, there would be a considerable downwards adjustment in many local tech levels, but I'm not sure it would be serious enough to cause a 'hard times' collapse. After all, worlds should still be able to keep up a reasonable level of interstellar contact at TL 9-10. I think the hardest-hit would be the military and entertainment industries, and possibly medicine - all those sectors elying on cutting edge technology.
Remember the snowball-effect and ripple-effects of economic collapses - sure, the initial change in actual economical conditions could, from an objective point of view, be quite survivable; but the collapse of several high-profit industries on economicall-important worlds could trigger a chain of events that would do far more damage. For example, think of the major banks financing these key industries; when these industries go bankrupt, it will hit these banks very hard, and might cause them to go bankrupt themselves, or, for the very least, increase the interests rates for their other customers (which will cause a further recession by making investments far more expensive) in order to compensate. Or, investors might panic (a common phenomenon during economical downturns) and start selling corporate stocks en-masse, which might cause the collapse of many stock-exchanges. Or workers fired en-masse from bankrupt industries might revolt in demand for work, or, atleast, means of sustainance. Or all three combined. Or more.

Another fact of the Imperial system is given on Hard Times, p.57: the bigger nobles are the major corp stockholders. So an economic collapse of several key industries might trigger a civil war...

Back to the original question, though - I have to admit it's pretty difficult to think of an event which could cause such a calamity over what is, after all, a fairly flexible and loosely-organised interstellar polity.
While I agree that the Imperium is somewhat decentralized (due to the long communication times), most planetary economies within its borders had evolved for centuries in an environment where massive-volume interstellar shipment was widely available; thus, planets will specialize alot, especially in the highly-developed core areas, and interstellar economic ties would go very deep. Remove these ties, and massive economical damage results.
 
It seems to me that the noble houses have some measure of dissatisfaction going on. Small wars and trade law tinkering could set up some serious rivalries. Dukes could align into factions and then have a falling out. A sector alone is big enough for any one ruler to keep them busy. Some kind of fracture like the Holy Roman Empire during the late 1400s could be the result. Yes there is an emperor but . . .

Why I ask….
One of my planets is named Barsarone and has a system wide population of 90 billion. Human, Vargr and all rest live here. Heavy pollution Impersonal B gov. Huge economy, massive labor pool, bottomless market, and is currently importing food for the first time.

I am trying to envision an upset without destroying the universe. Once the emperor is dead, he is dead and I don’t want that.

Perhaps a “Great Depression” scenario?
 
It seems to me that the noble houses have some measure of dissatisfaction going on. Small wars and trade law tinkering could set up some serious rivalries. Dukes could align into factions and then have a falling out. A sector alone is big enough for any one ruler to keep them busy. Some kind of fracture like the Holy Roman Empire during the late 1400s could be the result. Yes there is an emperor but . . .

Why I ask….
One of my planets is named Barsarone and has a system wide population of 90 billion. Human, Vargr and all rest live here. Heavy pollution Impersonal B gov. Huge economy, massive labor pool, bottomless market, and is currently importing food for the first time.

I am trying to envision an upset without destroying the universe. Once the emperor is dead, he is dead and I don’t want that.

Perhaps a “Great Depression” scenario?
 
It seems to me that the noble houses have some measure of dissatisfaction going on. Small wars and trade law tinkering could set up some serious rivalries. Dukes could align into factions and then have a falling out. A sector alone is big enough for any one ruler to keep them busy. Some kind of fracture like the Holy Roman Empire during the late 1400s could be the result. Yes there is an emperor but . . .

Why I ask….
One of my planets is named Barsarone and has a system wide population of 90 billion. Human, Vargr and all rest live here. Heavy pollution Impersonal B gov. Huge economy, massive labor pool, bottomless market, and is currently importing food for the first time.

I am trying to envision an upset without destroying the universe. Once the emperor is dead, he is dead and I don’t want that.

Perhaps a “Great Depression” scenario?
 
I have always viewed the Third Imperium somewhat like the former USSR or the United States. Capable of great dynamism as a whole but its parts may function at different levels of development made all the more problematic by the fact the Credit is not really a monetary unit, at all.

Furthermore, the propensity to crisis lies in need for constant expansion. This in turn is compounded by cultural & political crises that are usually restricted to the local level. That is why, it was the one shot that shattered a thousand years of peace and thousand worlds. Because the Emperor had ascended to a point when the entire totality could not exist without him/her.
 
I have always viewed the Third Imperium somewhat like the former USSR or the United States. Capable of great dynamism as a whole but its parts may function at different levels of development made all the more problematic by the fact the Credit is not really a monetary unit, at all.

Furthermore, the propensity to crisis lies in need for constant expansion. This in turn is compounded by cultural & political crises that are usually restricted to the local level. That is why, it was the one shot that shattered a thousand years of peace and thousand worlds. Because the Emperor had ascended to a point when the entire totality could not exist without him/her.
 
I have always viewed the Third Imperium somewhat like the former USSR or the United States. Capable of great dynamism as a whole but its parts may function at different levels of development made all the more problematic by the fact the Credit is not really a monetary unit, at all.

Furthermore, the propensity to crisis lies in need for constant expansion. This in turn is compounded by cultural & political crises that are usually restricted to the local level. That is why, it was the one shot that shattered a thousand years of peace and thousand worlds. Because the Emperor had ascended to a point when the entire totality could not exist without him/her.
 
Is it possible to have Barsarone near a border with a hostile state and suffers infrastructure damage during a raid (or a series of)? Players could even have different characters for different phases of the timeline (free-trader visiting antebellum, sdb crew during a raid, speculaters/workers during the rebuilding). Keeps your universe intact, but allows you to decide how much damage you want to do to the place
 
Is it possible to have Barsarone near a border with a hostile state and suffers infrastructure damage during a raid (or a series of)? Players could even have different characters for different phases of the timeline (free-trader visiting antebellum, sdb crew during a raid, speculaters/workers during the rebuilding). Keeps your universe intact, but allows you to decide how much damage you want to do to the place
 
Is it possible to have Barsarone near a border with a hostile state and suffers infrastructure damage during a raid (or a series of)? Players could even have different characters for different phases of the timeline (free-trader visiting antebellum, sdb crew during a raid, speculaters/workers during the rebuilding). Keeps your universe intact, but allows you to decide how much damage you want to do to the place
 
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