Do Clones Have Free Will?

[AnotherDilbert]

Yes, but in earlier versions of T5 and all the way back to early JTAS days androids are defined as entirely biological.

Not quite:

Android: A biologically-based being created to a set of specifications for some purpose or duty.

Note not "entirely biological" but "biologically-based".

It also fills the same quadrant on the graph:
CT JTAS:


T5.10:

 

[GypsyComet]

see The Island about clones and free will Or the classic Blade Runner. (links to the IMDB entries)

Or THX-1138, or the movie The Island is a remake of, Parts, the Clonus Horror. Or Logan's Run. or even the Star Wars prequels and their spin-off ramifications.

 

[kilemall]

Side note, the original scifi creation of the word robot, the play RUR, envisioned robots as a biological entity but more printed and programmed, and the, er, problems encountered later were largely a coding error. They weren't copies of people, but specifically designed to be more durable, smarter and stronger and no emotion to resent menial tasks.


Those WOULD be synthetic by the above definitions, and definitely regarded as product in the play.

 

[Timerover51]

Or THX-1138, or the movie The Island is a remake of, Parts, the Clonus Horror. Or Logan's Run. or even the Star Wars prequels and their spin-off ramifications.

As I have never watched any of the movies, I have no idea as to what you are referring too.

 

[Grav_Moped]

By Imperial policy clones are free individuals:


So, you can't keep clones as slaves, in the Imperium at least.

Except that there are canon examples of them doing just that - my previous example of the Emperor clones, the clone families of T5/AotI...

it appears that the Imperium do not view clones as sentient life forms but rather constructed synthetics...

Indentured servitude to repay their manufacturing costs. Given their unnaturally-short lifespans, they won't be able to repay it, especially in the context of a company-store environment. And their installed personalities are conditioned to never question the ethics of the contract. (And to be clear, it's horribly unethical!)

People or corporations that make clones have enough influence to keep the rest of society from questioning it also. Mostly.

 

[whartung]

As I have never watched any of the movies, I have no idea as to what you are referring too.

These are movies that explore the concept of clones and/or synthetic humanoids, their treatment, capabilities, and their place in society.

Also, consider the movie "The Moon" with Sam Rockwell.

Of course, we can't skip Alien and Aliens, where androids play key roles.

 

[AtlanticFriend]

As to a clones rights in the Third Imperium, they are often treated as non-human, as slaves, as property, as biological machines. There is a very nasty bit of Imperial practice - I will give points to whoever can recognise the canonical source.

Particularly since it seems to run against the fact slavery seems one of the few big non-nos the Imperium enforces on its member worlds, IIRC.

 

[coliver988]

These are movies that explore the concept of clones and/or synthetic humanoids, their treatment, capabilities, and their place in society.

Also, consider the movie "The Moon" with Sam Rockwell.

Of course, we can't skip Alien and Aliens, where androids play key roles.

The Moon is a really good study in corporate ethics, as well as an enjoyable movie with a single character other than the computer Gerty (which I stuck in my Big Wreck game, though I don't think any of the players recognized as we stopped playing the session they got there) IMDB link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/