Dinos?

[Cryton]

Anyone have any Dino stats for MgT that they would share?

 

[far-trader]

I seem to recall a few dino like critters in various CT adventures. Nothing specific comes to mind except maybe the things from Tarsus. If I'm recalling the right ones. Huge beasts, big as an ATV, but docile (mostly). Or I'm confused and conflating, which wouldn't be new

EDIT: Come to think a little I'm almost certain someone did up a bunch of dinos for CT stats here a while back. Jame maybe? Or was it Trent? Can't recall. Someone was working on a prehistoric setting though, I think. You might try a search or two Cryton. Converting should be easy.

 

[Cryton]

Done the search, found everything from Droyne as dino-decendants to ideas for d20 settings using the D&D monster manuals. I however was hoping for set of MoT stats, or the formulas for creatures over 5000 kg.

So far, no joy.

 

[far-trader]

Ah, I think what I was recalling was that D&D Monster Manual thread. Maybe someone will feel like tackling it

 

[Maladominus]

IMTU, Second Imperium Terrans had easily bio-engineered dinosaur DNA and created 1 or 2 "Jurassic Park" type museum worlds in the Solomani Sphere. Tourists fly into these worlds to see the dinosaurs of Ancient Terra.

 

[Trouble]

Dinosaurs

I haven't done any for MoT. It shouldn't be that hard. The reference in this case is Expert Guide to Dinosaurs. I paid $4 for it at Barnes and Noble. From the tables in order you get a Reproduction Quirk (Lays Eggs). It is a Walker. A Carnivore (some would argue Scavenger). Sticking to Carnivore the choices are Pouncer, Siren, Killer, Trapper, or Chaser. I would go with Killer based on B movies. Weight is given as 5.5 to 7.7 Tonnes. I would average this and weigh the Strength dice toward the higher numbers (7 x 3 = 21, 7 x 6 = 42 so closer to 42). Endurance I would put closer to 21 because of the argument that it lacked the endurance for long chases. Weapons are teeth (Teeth +2). I would put the Armour at 1 or 2. Damage 5 d 6. The number encountered is also a debate. For myself 1D3. Attack 6+ Flee 3-. I don't know if this helps. But there it is.

 

[aramis]

The problem is that MGT only goes to 5000kg critters... unlike other versions which go up to either 40,000kg or 44,000 kg.

 

[Cryton]

That is the issue. However , as the T-rex is only in the 7 ton (thats not in metric tons) category, and all but the really big herbivores are smaller, I might be able to do this.

 

[Cryton]

I haven't done any for MoT. It shouldn't be that hard. The reference in this case is Expert Guide to Dinosaurs. I paid $4 for it at Barnes and Noble. From the tables in order you get a Reproduction Quirk (Lays Eggs). It is a Walker. A Carnivore (some would argue Scavenger). Sticking to Carnivore the choices are Pouncer, Siren, Killer, Trapper, or Chaser. I would go with Killer based on B movies. Weight is given as 5.5 to 7.7 Tonnes. I would average this and weigh the Strength dice toward the higher numbers (7 x 3 = 21, 7 x 6 = 42 so closer to 42). Endurance I would put closer to 21 because of the argument that it lacked the endurance for long chases. Weapons are teeth (Teeth +2). I would put the Armour at 1 or 2. Damage 5 d 6. The number encountered is also a debate. For myself 1D3. Attack 6+ Flee 3-. I don't know if this helps. But there it is.

thats a good start.

 

[aramis]

The difference between 7 short tons (US) and 7 Metric tons is about 1400#... call it 6000kg, and you're close enough. Use the 5000kg line...

But, as per our discussion last night, TRex would use normal STR limits for lift/carry.

 

[Cryton]

Definitely Aramis. As its not a quadruped I feel no need to double its lift/carry values. Besides, unless I want my players to encounter Dino-boy strait from the comics, who's gonna try to ride a T-Rex?

 

[aramis]

Definitely Aramis. As its not a quadruped I feel no need to double its lift/carry values. Besides, unless I want my players to encounter Dino-boy strait from the comics, who's gonna try to ride a T-Rex?

Never underestimate the stupidity of a PC.

 

[Cryton]

These are the MgT stats for some of my favorite Dinos, and the inhabitants of any "Dinosaur Planet", "Jurasic Park", or Imperial preserve world that you care to put 'em on.


T-Rex 6000kg Pouncer Str42 Dex8 End35 Int1 Ins12 Pac4 Claws & Teeth+2 5d6 dmg Armor1
Attack 7+ Flee 4- Speed 3 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 1, Stealth 0, Recon 1, Melee(nat weop) 1
12m(39') length, 5.6m(18.5') height. Big, mean, and fast.

Ankylosaurus 3200kg Grazer Str24 Dex3 End24 Int1 Ins9 Pac10 Club+1 3d6 dmg Armor5
Attack 8+ Flee 6- Speed 1 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 0, Recon 1, Melee(nat) 1
10.7m(35') length, 1.5m(5'5") height. Armored with a mace-like tail.

Compognathus 3kg Reducer Str2 Dex8 End4 Int1 Ins7 Pac12 Teeth 1d6 dmg Armor0
Attack10+ Flee 7- Speed 2 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 1, Recon 2, Melee(nat) 0
100cm(3') length, 26cm(10") height. Compys...small, cute, vicious.

Hadrosaurs 5000kg Grazers Str31 Dex3 End31 Int1 Ins9 Pac12 Club 4d6 dmg Armor0
Attack 8+, Flee 6-, Speed 2 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 1, Recon 2, Melee(nat) 0
9m(30') length, 5m(16.5') height. Covers a range of "duck-billed" dinos.

Pteranodon 25kg Flying Hunter Str7 Dex12 End7 Int1 Ins9 Pac7 Teeth 1d6 dmg Armor0
Attack IB6+/10+ Flee 5- Speed 3f Skills Survival 1, Athletics(flight) 2, Recon 1,
Melee(nat) 0
1.5m(6') height/length, 10m(33') wingspan.

Stegosaurus 2000kg Grazer Str21 Dex7 End20 Int1 Ins9 Pac11 Stinger+1 3d6 dmg Armor3
Attack 8+ Flee 6- Speed 1 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 0, Recon 1, Melee(nat) 1
9m(30') length, 3.3m(11') height. Plated and spiked-tailed.

Triceratops 5000kg Grazer Str25 Dex4 End25 Int1 Ins9 Pac12 Horns 3d6 dmg Armor5(front only)
Attack 8+ Flee 6- Speed 2 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 0, Recon 1, Melee(nat) 1
9m(30') length, 3.3m(11') height. Tri-horned and armor "shield". Classic.

Utahraptor 800kg Chaser Str14 Dex11 End14 Int2 Ins9 Pac9 Teeth & Claws+1 2d6 Armor0
Attack if more Flee 6- Speed 2/3 Skills Survival 1, Athletics(coordination) 2, Recon 1
Melee 2
5m(16') length 1.7m(6') at hips. These are the Raptors from Jurasic park.

Allosaurus 4ton Pouncer Str24 Dex7 End24 Int1 Ins9 Pac7 Claws & Teeth+1 3d6 Armor0
Attack 6+ Flee 3- Spd 3 Skills Survival 1, Stealth 0, Athletics 1, Recon 1,Melee(nat) 1
12m(40') length, 3m(10') at hips.

Archaeopteryx .5kg flying carrion-eater Str1 Dex6 Sta1 Int1 Ins9 Pac7 Teeth 1d6 Armor0
Attack 11+ Flee7- Speed 1f Skills Survival 1, Athletics(flight) 2, Recon1, Melee(nat) 0
30cm(~1) length, .5m(~1'6") wingspan. That "Dino-bird" link.

On the BIG guys I had to extrapolate a little. This is what I got.

Apatosaurus 33ton Grazer Str48 Dex3 End51 Int1 Ins9 Pac12 Hoves & Club 5d6 Armor0
Attack 8+ Flee 6- Speed 2 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 0, Recon 0, Melee(nat) 1
21m(70')length, 4.6m(15') at shoulder. "Brontos"

Brachiosaurus 80ton Grazer Str80 Dex2 End80 Int1 Ins9 Pac12 Hooves & Club 8d6 Armor0
Attack 8+ Flee 6- Speed 2 Skills Survival 1, Athletics 0, Recon 0, Melee(nat) 1
23m(75')length, 12m(40') Head height, 7m(23') at hips.

 

[Cryton]

I used the speed trait on these, for my game its a multiplier on the base 6m move rate. I'm a fan that they were faster than most people think they are, and I think they represent a more accurate representation of just how fast they are thought to have been.

 

[Cryton]

*Bump*

For use with those of you who think Terra Nova rocked!

 

[Peter Schutze]

for most large dino's you need to modify the morale and reaction rules

i seem to remember that the neural pathways were so long on some big dinos that it might be a round or 3 before they really noticed that point of damage you just inflicted to their tail

 

[Jame]

*Bump*

For use with those of you who think Terra Nova rocked!

I liked it. Though for my taste it should have been colonists that went to another planet, IN THIS TIME, and found ALIEN dinos. Which, yes, acted the way that they did in the show.

 

[Cryton]

I put dinos on one of the worlds in MTU. My players loved it, and began running safari expiditions to the world in question.

But it did spawn one major question: If these are Terran dinos, as they seemed to be, who put them here, and what should we call a race older than the Ancients?

Too much fun.

 

[aramis]

should we call a race older than the Ancients?

Primordials

 

[Cryton]

Thanks, I had forgotten about the psionic space snails.