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Did The DGP Stuff Ever Get Reprints or CD-ROMs?

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impala

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What the subject line says, really. Did the stuff that DGP put out like Grand Survey and 101 Robots ever make it back into circulation? Is it available for download from one of the online vendors? I understand that there was some sort of falling out between Mr. Miller and DGP; is that why we haven't seen it happen or is it planned and has just not caught up yet?

Thank you for your consideration.
 
There is no legal way to get PDF editions of DGP materials at this time.
 
Do you know if there are plans to put them out at some point? It seems like it was just a few weeks after I bought "The Beyond" on e-bay that the digital version became available, so I was hoping there might be some hope of the DGP stuff coming down the pipeline in the future...
 
impala said:
Do you know if there are plans to put them out at some point? It seems like it was just a few weeks after I bought "The Beyond" on e-bay that the digital version became available, so I was hoping there might be some hope of the DGP stuff coming down the pipeline in the future...
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Not in the current future. It's not impossible, but it will take a lot.
 
If Roger Sanger suddenly became reasonable and made a deal with MWM, I suspect DonM would let us know right quick... because he'd probably be bubbling over with joy himself.

But Roger has not been reasonable about the DGP properties, isn't in any rush to be reasonable about them, and has missed the window for making his money back on them.

And last word was MWM wasn't able to reach Roger, either. So... no, it's not likely anytime soon.
 
Figured I'd best correct some of this...

aramis said:
If Roger Sanger suddenly became reasonable and made a deal with MWM, I suspect DonM would let us know right quick... because he'd probably be bubbling over with joy himself.
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Actually, from both men, this isn't the issue. There are issues, but money isn't the big one.

But Roger has not been reasonable about the DGP properties, isn't in any rush to be reasonable about them, and has missed the window for making his money back on them.
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I'll argue against your statement here, and invoke the name of Courtney Soloman. And I don't think the window has been missed. I happen to think a DGP CD would sell reasonably if handled like Marc handles the CT/MT/TNE CDs.

And last word was MWM wasn't able to reach Roger, either. So... no, it's not likely anytime soon.
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That is definitely incorrect. Roger and Marc know how to reach each other directly. In fact, Roger and I exchanged e-mails last week (and yes, I annoyed him again about the DGP materials). He's healthy, and training for a triathalon somewhere. He did point out his reason is still valid, and I can't go into that. Not in public or private.

Roger has his reasons. I don't agree with them, but I do respect them. I earnestly hold out that he will reconsider. Someday...
 
Just curious - when Sanger got the rights to DGP materials, was it -all- their materials, or just MT? I remember reading that elements of AI had been lost from hard drive crashes somewhere - did he get rights to what elements, if any, of AI survived as well?
 
He owns all the DGP materials, except for the items with GDW copyrights (the MegaTraveller Journals).
 
He could be making $ on the material rather than people treating it like abandonware. Correcting books with the errata and publishing as watermarked PDFs. No printing costs. Fools.
 
Seriayne said:
Just curious - when Sanger got the rights to DGP materials, was it -all- their materials, or just MT? I remember reading that elements of AI had been lost from hard drive crashes somewhere - did he get rights to what elements, if any, of AI survived as well?
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He had the rights to the AI concept but little or no actual material. So he expanded the idea into a GURPS wannabe (with the AI universe being just one of several settings) and tried to develop it using online groups doing the work. Unfortunately his project management skills at the time weren’t sufficient for the task and it floundered around for a while without achieving anything.
 
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There are other grants of permission from Roger to Marc and others. Is there something specific you would like to do?
 
Where SJGames' JTAS Online is concerned, you need to ask them. The three items you mentioned are all Marc IP, so you should be safe there. World names, race names and UWPs are all OTU "general" items.

But if you're doing something for Mongoose or SJGames, you're always best off asking for confirmation from them specifically.
 
That's so cool, I've never seen the permission slip before.

I don't get what the argument is about, but what I do know is that within my collection is some of the DGP stuff. (Maybe some Judge's Guild too, but I don't remember.)
 
Last year some Judge's Guild Traveller items were posted for a few days at Drivethru RPG, but were taken down. Not sure why they were put up in the first place, then taken down so quickly. Someone at Judge's Guild felt they could be posted? Later, they even removed the entries from my download list like what happened with WotC, but I got my copies right when I ordered (bwahahaha?). They had not been OCRed though.

Goodies like that show up from time to time. Got the GDW bundle for the CT game PDF's the day they came out for something like half the price it sold for the next day. It was a new bundle then and no sales were up at the time. Or like when Mongoose had the Bab 5 Traveller books up for a fairly short period, then down because of the license ending. I scan Drivethru twice every day for such goodies, just in case.
 
impala said:
What the subject line says, really. Did the stuff that DGP put out like Grand Survey and 101 Robots ever make it back into circulation? Is it available for download from one of the online vendors? I understand that there was some sort of falling out between Mr. Miller and DGP; is that why we haven't seen it happen or is it planned and has just not caught up yet?

Thank you for your consideration.
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Haven't we been down this road before?
 
Blue Ghost said:
Haven't we been down this road before?
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Sure we have.
But having good quality OCRed scans of all the DGP stuff would be better than the shoddy ones I hear about floating around Internet, or self-made scans. Its a pain to review hundreds of tiny, tiny UPPs.
 
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