Characteristics maximum value
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15 (F) is often accepted as a max-value for characteristics of humans.
Thanks, Do you know which page that is from?
Soc is neither biological nor intrinsic in a sophont. It should have no limit except what is placed by culture. All the rest have some interaction with biology/physiology, even Edu recalls on a biological system to retrieve information. Intelligence might have no limit if it were separated from the physical body (sophonts of pure intellect or energy, acsended, transformed, whichever flavor of magic you prefer).
Several people have developed their own Soc systems for their TUs that go higher. Here's one example.
Sure they can try for Emperor...
Archduke on the other hand is a smidge easier.
I am just want to hear/read a really, really good back story on how they managed to take the Crown from its current holder. Which if they are paying attention has been tried several times already and failed.
Archduke on the other hand is a smidge easier.
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No page reference in T5, that's just my experience over the last 30+ years.
It hasn't been tried for 500 years. Back before that, it was tried quite a number of times, many of them successfully.
Hans
Depends.
Now, however I am one of the Sect of the Reformed Canonistas and run an ATU in which is has been a lot closer than 500 years ago. Hell, 500 years ago there wasn't an Emperor to try and take the Crown from.
Well, for the OTU (or my variant of Marc's TU), that is true and I would have to say no to Soc F+ and maybe even f+.
Now, however I am one of the Sect of the Reformed Canonistas and run an ATU in which is has been a lot closer than 500 years ago. Hell, 500 years ago there wasn't an Emperor to try and take the Crown from.
pendragonman
Absent Friends Margrave
I believe that perhaps Hans is referring to our Terran history. 500 years ago there was the Holy Roman Empire, that evolves into the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and there was most certainly an Emperor that kept having it usurped.
They are not limited.
Actually, they are determined by three things: the number of dice to roll for each characteristic, any dice modifiers used when rolling said characteristic, and the number of times you roll on the Physical Improvement table during career resolution.
The dice for a characteristic are determined by the type of sophont being rolled. For a human, it's 2D for each characteristic, but some sophonts can have Strength up to 8D. (p.550, Table B).
There are potentially two additional roll modifiers for the first five characteristics: a gender-based one, and a caste-based one. Those modifiers can range up to +5 each. (p.551, Table C, and p.552, Table B).
Career generation can potentially send a character's stats sky-high, but usually don't. If one devotes every single "skill roll" to Physical Improvement, an average of 1 in 6 rolls will be on each characteristic. (Example: Scouts, p.87, Table C, Column 1).
So in an extreme example, a character has 8D strength, a gender mod of +5, a caste mod of +5, and spends (say) 12 terms in the Scouts, rolling on P.I. every time, and Strength is magically rolled every time.
Assuming maximum beneficial rolls, including all aging rolls for Strength being lucky, the character's exiting strength would be
8 x 6 = 48
+5 = 53
+5 = 58
+ 12 terms x 8 skills/term = +96 = 154.
Strength = 154. Wow.
Can't easily represent that with ehex.
A more "reasonable" edge case scenario would be
8 x 3.5 = 28
+0
+0
+ 6 terms x 2 physical improvement rolls/term x [1 STR roll / 6] = +2 = 30.
Strength = 30. Still: Wow, but at least it's representable, and there are still strength tasks he can't do consistently.
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Stats above 36 break the UPP but I think (Parentheses) would be fine:
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