board changes - yes or no?
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Thoth-Amon
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What were some of the suggested changes?
Hey Hunter, would you mind changing my name from thoth-amon to Thoth-Amon. It's like an itch i cant scratch so it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Hey Hunter, would you mind changing my name from thoth-amon to Thoth-Amon. It's like an itch i cant scratch so it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
RandyT0001
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Poop plop
Fly, are you dissing my thread? Are you trying to insult me? Maybe I'll report this thread to the mods and actually be man enough to openly state that I might report this thread. But since reporting to the mods is secret you'll never really know will ya?
HA!
Moderators, how many other anti- suggestion thread posters have posted a poll questioning the need for changes to CotI? Shouldn't such a person be tarred and feathered if not outright banded (or is it bannned?)????
And by the way I did vote that if major changes aren't made to the board (like making every member a moderator, especially me) then I'm leaving. OK. Well, maybe I wont leave but I'm gonna whine about it for a week or two.
Sorry for pooping on your thread Fly.
Fly, are you dissing my thread? Are you trying to insult me? Maybe I'll report this thread to the mods and actually be man enough to openly state that I might report this thread. But since reporting to the mods is secret you'll never really know will ya?
HA!
Moderators, how many other anti- suggestion thread posters have posted a poll questioning the need for changes to CotI? Shouldn't such a person be tarred and feathered if not outright banded (or is it bannned?)????
And by the way I did vote that if major changes aren't made to the board (like making every member a moderator, especially me) then I'm leaving. OK. Well, maybe I wont leave but I'm gonna whine about it for a week or two.
Sorry for pooping on your thread Fly.
Okay, my 0.02CrImps...
I voted that we leave the site alone. This latest spate of calls for change have arose, like nearly every other previous call for change, because of threads and moderator actions in the Pit.
While I stay out of the Pit and strongly suggest that others do the same, I also recognize the need for a place the Pit. The site needs a place to which it can safely relocate certain threads and where people who want to "discuss" certain topics can go.
That's the upside of having the Pit; we've a place where things can get a little hairier. The downside of having the Pit is that the Pit occasionally boils over. Calls for change to site are usually part of the "splatter" from such boil-overs and those boil-overs fade with time.
The mods here do a superb and essentially unrewarded job. COTI has been able to chug along under the current system for several years now. This is the both primary, and with the "retirement" of T20, most independent Traveller fora on the internet. SJGames' and Mongoose's fora are house organs and have nowhere near the message traffic COTI does.
The site isn't anywhere near broken, so let's not fix it.
If you feel strongly about my opinions on this matter, contact me via the PM function so we won't crap up Fly's thread and get it sent to the Pit!
Regards,
Bill
I voted that we leave the site alone. This latest spate of calls for change have arose, like nearly every other previous call for change, because of threads and moderator actions in the Pit.
While I stay out of the Pit and strongly suggest that others do the same, I also recognize the need for a place the Pit. The site needs a place to which it can safely relocate certain threads and where people who want to "discuss" certain topics can go.
That's the upside of having the Pit; we've a place where things can get a little hairier. The downside of having the Pit is that the Pit occasionally boils over. Calls for change to site are usually part of the "splatter" from such boil-overs and those boil-overs fade with time.
The mods here do a superb and essentially unrewarded job. COTI has been able to chug along under the current system for several years now. This is the both primary, and with the "retirement" of T20, most independent Traveller fora on the internet. SJGames' and Mongoose's fora are house organs and have nowhere near the message traffic COTI does.
The site isn't anywhere near broken, so let's not fix it.
If you feel strongly about my opinions on this matter, contact me via the PM function so we won't crap up Fly's thread and get it sent to the Pit!
Regards,
Bill
Icosahedron
SOC-14 1K
Well firstly I think the poll question is broken and may seriously skew the results.
I just want to play Traveller, but that doesn't mean I want no changes. Those statements shouldn't be linked. A better wording would have been "No. I'm happy with the system as it is."
I'm voting for a few changes - well, not really changes, more like fixes to bring the system back to the way it should work:
1. We need someone properly in the Admin role, devoting more time than Hunter is currently able/willing to.
2. We need more Moderators to share the workload and shed the perception of a clique.
3. (Less importantly) Do we need the Pit? Does it serve a Traveller purpose? It's quite possible to discuss Traveller politics and Traveller religion on the main board and remain within the rules - numerous threads here are proof of this.
(As Bill says, it seems to be a source of trouble - so we might all get along better if we banned non-Traveller politics and religion from the boards altogether. PM me only if you feel you need to, Bill. )
4. Not a change in the board, but a change in the members. More self-moderation please.
I just want to play Traveller, but that doesn't mean I want no changes. Those statements shouldn't be linked. A better wording would have been "No. I'm happy with the system as it is."
I'm voting for a few changes - well, not really changes, more like fixes to bring the system back to the way it should work:
1. We need someone properly in the Admin role, devoting more time than Hunter is currently able/willing to.
2. We need more Moderators to share the workload and shed the perception of a clique.
3. (Less importantly) Do we need the Pit? Does it serve a Traveller purpose? It's quite possible to discuss Traveller politics and Traveller religion on the main board and remain within the rules - numerous threads here are proof of this.
(As Bill says, it seems to be a source of trouble - so we might all get along better if we banned non-Traveller politics and religion from the boards altogether. PM me only if you feel you need to, Bill.
)4. Not a change in the board, but a change in the members. More self-moderation please.
Supplement Four
SOC-14 5K
At the time of my writing this, it's 17 people think no changes are necessary, and 15 people think that some sort of change should be enacted.
I too think the poll is worded poorly, escpecially in the way it deceives those who want change vs. those who don't. Just glancing at the poll looks like 53% of the responders don't want change and just a small percentage do think change would help the board (when, in fact, it's close to half the responders who do, indeed, want change).
What I think is that we need a checks & balance system to keep the mods from overstepping their powers--something I've seen them do more than once to various people. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
My proposal was simple: We have a Thread dedicated to it. If you feel you've been the victim of a mod wrongly slapping a Warning or Infraction on you, then you would be able, after the mandatory waiting period (I suggested one week cool off time), to list your grievance on the thread.
The court of public opinion would keep the moderators from making "bad calls", and it would expose "bad mods", who are the repeat offenders.
The ideal would be: That the thread is never used. Like nuclear weapons, just the threat of it being there would encourage the mod to do as the mods encourage us when posting, "Think before you hit 'Send'".
I also think that Reporting posts should be public. A person should be able to face his accuser, instead of allowing him to accuse from the darkened end of the room.
Given that, I voted, "Yes" to moderate changes to the board.
I too think the poll is worded poorly, escpecially in the way it deceives those who want change vs. those who don't. Just glancing at the poll looks like 53% of the responders don't want change and just a small percentage do think change would help the board (when, in fact, it's close to half the responders who do, indeed, want change).
What I think is that we need a checks & balance system to keep the mods from overstepping their powers--something I've seen them do more than once to various people. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
My proposal was simple: We have a Thread dedicated to it. If you feel you've been the victim of a mod wrongly slapping a Warning or Infraction on you, then you would be able, after the mandatory waiting period (I suggested one week cool off time), to list your grievance on the thread.
The court of public opinion would keep the moderators from making "bad calls", and it would expose "bad mods", who are the repeat offenders.
The ideal would be: That the thread is never used. Like nuclear weapons, just the threat of it being there would encourage the mod to do as the mods encourage us when posting, "Think before you hit 'Send'".
I also think that Reporting posts should be public. A person should be able to face his accuser, instead of allowing him to accuse from the darkened end of the room.
Given that, I voted, "Yes" to moderate changes to the board.
ThunderChilde
SOC-13
I haven't been a member here a year yet. I never read the board rules, perhaps I should have. I have conducted myself by and large in a respectful and courteous fashion. I haven't recieved a warning, ban or any contact from a mod for behavior. I'd wager that the vast bulk of COTI's members haven't had any issues either.
Do they need a few more mods? I'd say yes, Isochedron has a sensible set of ideas. That is all I'm saying on that set of topics.
I'll re-iterate, this is not a democracy, it is not a right to have access. We do not have the right to speak and behave like hoodlums with out consequences.
I stepped up and payed cash to support this forum, because I liked it, it is independent, by and large it is a friendly place, and I thought it was a worthy use of my meager funds. Imho, some folks expectation just do not reflect the reality of the situation.
The reality is we have a generally absentee Admin, too few mods, and a group of members who keep agitating an already somewhat tenous situation, it ain't helping folks. Calm the heck down, show some decorum and act like your a civilized person. (Sheesh, I'd been out in the woodshed if I acted that way, or atleast gotten the knife handle across the nuckles):devil:
Do they need a few more mods? I'd say yes, Isochedron has a sensible set of ideas. That is all I'm saying on that set of topics.
I'll re-iterate, this is not a democracy, it is not a right to have access. We do not have the right to speak and behave like hoodlums with out consequences.
I stepped up and payed cash to support this forum, because I liked it, it is independent, by and large it is a friendly place, and I thought it was a worthy use of my meager funds. Imho, some folks expectation just do not reflect the reality of the situation.
The reality is we have a generally absentee Admin, too few mods, and a group of members who keep agitating an already somewhat tenous situation, it ain't helping folks. Calm the heck down, show some decorum and act like your a civilized person. (Sheesh, I'd been out in the woodshed if I acted that way, or atleast gotten the knife handle across the nuckles):devil:
I agree the question is vague, however the reason I'm posting this is to add an 'open ended' aspect to my selection.
I think the Political Pulpit should be removed. It's really not necessary in a forum such as this. There are thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of forums to discuss the President, the Congress, and the general political swamps of our world.
I have to say that I've actually changed my opinion of some posters (their Traveller posts) based on some of the stuff I've seen in the Political Pulpit. Plus, I understand that there has been some sour response to censuring and warnings regarding the posting behavior of some folks.
Hey, it's just Traveller man. Let's keep it that simple.
I think the Political Pulpit should be removed. It's really not necessary in a forum such as this. There are thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of forums to discuss the President, the Congress, and the general political swamps of our world.
I have to say that I've actually changed my opinion of some posters (their Traveller posts) based on some of the stuff I've seen in the Political Pulpit. Plus, I understand that there has been some sour response to censuring and warnings regarding the posting behavior of some folks.
Hey, it's just Traveller man. Let's keep it that simple.
I think the board is fine just the way it is.
If anything, I want more Traveller topics posted by users.
If anything, I want more Traveller topics posted by users.
Space Hamster
SOC-12
The site works fine for me. I think it would be less hastle to leave it the way it is. The threads are easy to read.
Space Hamster
SOC-12
I would not have a problem with the removal of the pitt.
The adding and removing of sections are not a problem. I just don't want to have to deal with a change to the actual site. :nonono:
Hope my account moves over correctly.
How long the site is down during the move.
That kind of stuff.
The adding and removing of sections are not a problem. I just don't want to have to deal with a change to the actual site. :nonono:
Hope my account moves over correctly.
How long the site is down during the move.
That kind of stuff.
Maladominus
SOC-14 1K
Get rid of the Pulpit.
RandyT0001
SOC-13
Whaaaaaa Whaaaaaa
<Whiner mode on>
Close the Pit? Are you nuts? Just because four to a half dozen board members think/believe they've been severly mistreated by the mods with overzealous infraction points and/or a too quick to ban attitude due solely to a difference of political viewpoints is no basis to close down the Pit. Personally I think all this talk about closing down the Pit is just a vast centralist-wing conspiracy to censor the extremists' freedom of speech here on Hunter's Traveller board. How dare you????
But I know what this really is about. You're trying to divert me from my goal. I've given the mods 24, thats twenty-four mind you, hours to decide to make me a mod and I haven't gotten a PM confirming my appointment yet. Why not? Huh? I'm impatiently waiting here.
<4/4 finger tapping noise>
<Whiner mode off>
<Whiner mode on>
Close the Pit? Are you nuts? Just because four to a half dozen board members think/believe they've been severly mistreated by the mods with overzealous infraction points and/or a too quick to ban attitude due solely to a difference of political viewpoints is no basis to close down the Pit. Personally I think all this talk about closing down the Pit is just a vast centralist-wing conspiracy to censor the extremists' freedom of speech here on Hunter's Traveller board. How dare you????
But I know what this really is about. You're trying to divert me from my goal. I've given the mods 24, thats twenty-four mind you, hours to decide to make me a mod and I haven't gotten a PM confirming my appointment yet. Why not? Huh? I'm impatiently waiting here.
<4/4 finger tapping noise>
<Whiner mode off>
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