At that size? Not sure on raw strength, but they don't appear to have the skeletal structure for heavy lifting.
All Things Vargr
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I was sort of lukewarm whether the Vargr developed swords.
I think shortswords, mostly for thrusting through chainmail and padding, or through weak points in platemail.
Reminding me about biting, the countermeasure would be a wooden club, or an iron mace.
I don't think they have the discipline for a phalanx, though that's where being part of a citizenship militia would seem to be a requirement.
I think shortswords, mostly for thrusting through chainmail and padding, or through weak points in platemail.
Reminding me about biting, the countermeasure would be a wooden club, or an iron mace.
I don't think they have the discipline for a phalanx, though that's where being part of a citizenship militia would seem to be a requirement.
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Spears tend to be regarded as the most useful pre modern battlefield weapon system, at least for melee.
I don't think that the Vargr had the strength and endurance to develop pikes, and we don't know if Lair had the critters to breed cavalry mounts.
Spear blocks certainly would discourage Highland charges, but what happens if the defending Vargr are in a dispersed formation?
That's why I think that the club, or clubesque hand weapons, would be preferred to connect with charging Vargr's head.
I don't think that the Vargr had the strength and endurance to develop pikes, and we don't know if Lair had the critters to breed cavalry mounts.
Spear blocks certainly would discourage Highland charges, but what happens if the defending Vargr are in a dispersed formation?
That's why I think that the club, or clubesque hand weapons, would be preferred to connect with charging Vargr's head.
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Reason I don't think that the Vargr would have bothered to use standard default swords, is that being weaker, it wouldn't have gained them the same benefit as humans, being a somewhat general purpose secondary sidearm.
Weighting the business end, gives them more damage on impact, essentially giving them a potential killing shot, or an incapacitating one.
Humans have that, too, but our greater strength and endurance allows extended polearms, such as halberds.
Exceptionally, I think rapiers, which are thrusting weapons.
Weighting the business end, gives them more damage on impact, essentially giving them a potential killing shot, or an incapacitating one.
Humans have that, too, but our greater strength and endurance allows extended polearms, such as halberds.
Exceptionally, I think rapiers, which are thrusting weapons.
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Vargr: Military Organization
V. A modern Vargr charge would be with a bayonetted assault rifle.
W. Continual disruption with automatic fire.
X. Morale check by the defender.
Y. If succeeded, and range closes to dogfight, possible spear thrust.
Z. Or clubbing, with rifle butt.
V. A modern Vargr charge would be with a bayonetted assault rifle.
W. Continual disruption with automatic fire.
X. Morale check by the defender.
Y. If succeeded, and range closes to dogfight, possible spear thrust.
Z. Or clubbing, with rifle butt.
Condottiere
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This would be Vargr on Vargr violence.
There's an option to reinforce the buttstock, and ruggedize the rifle.
Also, I think that Vargr suffer from Chihuahua syndrome.
There's an option to reinforce the buttstock, and ruggedize the rifle.
Also, I think that Vargr suffer from Chihuahua syndrome.
Condottiere
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Vargr: Military Organization
1. Large scale logistics would be a weak point for any Vargr endeavour.
2. But Vargr are great scroungers, which tends to work out for small units.
3. Neighbouring polities would become quite alarmed, once their intelligence agencies identify hoarding of strategic materials, and not so strategic goods.
4. Especially, organizing support troops.
5. A Vargr defender's primary objective would be to stalemate the advance of an attacker, until the attacker ran out of supplies.
6. The attacker would want to force a quick and decisive confrontation, even if it costs him excessive resources and casualties.
7. The rationale being, it would cost a lot more if the armed conflict was allowed to drag on.
8. Third parties, including corsairs, could take advantage of the continued distraction, and take bites out of the attacking polity.
9. And, these might not even be allied with the defender.
1. Large scale logistics would be a weak point for any Vargr endeavour.
2. But Vargr are great scroungers, which tends to work out for small units.
3. Neighbouring polities would become quite alarmed, once their intelligence agencies identify hoarding of strategic materials, and not so strategic goods.
4. Especially, organizing support troops.
5. A Vargr defender's primary objective would be to stalemate the advance of an attacker, until the attacker ran out of supplies.
6. The attacker would want to force a quick and decisive confrontation, even if it costs him excessive resources and casualties.
7. The rationale being, it would cost a lot more if the armed conflict was allowed to drag on.
8. Third parties, including corsairs, could take advantage of the continued distraction, and take bites out of the attacking polity.
9. And, these might not even be allied with the defender.
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Condottiere
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Vargr: Military Organization
A. Seen from the general morale angle, a stalemate would look almost as bad as a quick defeat, for the attacker.
B. Better to have a quick decision, and then be able to assess the fallout from a defeat, and rectify it.
C. The Furrer can then devote the time and resources to pacify his populace, rather than be distracted by an external affair.
D. Defenders would consider a stalemate success.
E. Public perception affects their opinion of the Furrer.
F. And the public opinion has an effect on the Furrer's public charisma score.
A. Seen from the general morale angle, a stalemate would look almost as bad as a quick defeat, for the attacker.
B. Better to have a quick decision, and then be able to assess the fallout from a defeat, and rectify it.
C. The Furrer can then devote the time and resources to pacify his populace, rather than be distracted by an external affair.
D. Defenders would consider a stalemate success.
E. Public perception affects their opinion of the Furrer.
F. And the public opinion has an effect on the Furrer's public charisma score.
Condottiere
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Vargr: Military Organization
G. The band is a semi informal grouping of Vargr packs, usually paramilitary, under somewhat unified leadership.
H. The Hundred is the term usually a formal, standardized, military administrative and field formation.
I. You could say that it's the Vargr equivalent of the Roman legion subunit, the century.
J. Most human administrative military formations tend to be below establishment.
K. Vargr Hundreds, at least initially, tend to be oversubscribed.
G. The band is a semi informal grouping of Vargr packs, usually paramilitary, under somewhat unified leadership.
H. The Hundred is the term usually a formal, standardized, military administrative and field formation.
I. You could say that it's the Vargr equivalent of the Roman legion subunit, the century.
J. Most human administrative military formations tend to be below establishment.
K. Vargr Hundreds, at least initially, tend to be oversubscribed.
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Vargr: Military Organization
L. Light infantry Vargr troops are sometimes referred to as Poochers.
M. It might be hard to sometimes differentiate regular Poocher units from corsair packs.
N. At a minimum, they have to wear a uniform, to identify their regularity and allegiance.
O. Over the years, the precise definition has drifted, to include other infantry based troops and units.
P. Specialist variants include Mountainpoochers, Parachutepoochers, and Fieldpoochers.
L. Light infantry Vargr troops are sometimes referred to as Poochers.
M. It might be hard to sometimes differentiate regular Poocher units from corsair packs.
N. At a minimum, they have to wear a uniform, to identify their regularity and allegiance.
O. Over the years, the precise definition has drifted, to include other infantry based troops and units.
P. Specialist variants include Mountainpoochers, Parachutepoochers, and Fieldpoochers.
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Furrer - supreme military and civilian Vargr polity leader
Doge - Vargr (city) state Vargr leader
Khanine - Vargr horde leader
Banner leader - leader of a banner
Hundreder - leader of a Hundred
(War) chief - leader of a (war) band
Pack leader - leader of a pack
Sub pack leader - leader of a sub pack
Doge - Vargr (city) state Vargr leader
Khanine - Vargr horde leader
Banner leader - leader of a banner
Hundreder - leader of a Hundred
(War) chief - leader of a (war) band
Pack leader - leader of a pack
Sub pack leader - leader of a sub pack
Farrier - makes footwear for K'kree.
Condottiere
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It is a military rank, and I think it evolved into a quartermaster function.
The issue I had with it, was, that I didn't know if the Vargr had developed cavalry on Lair, or even had bred local livestock into beasts of burden.
By the time they had interstellarized, they probably preferred mechanized transport, if they didn't have equine equivalents.
The issue I had with it, was, that I didn't know if the Vargr had developed cavalry on Lair, or even had bred local livestock into beasts of burden.
By the time they had interstellarized, they probably preferred mechanized transport, if they didn't have equine equivalents.
Condottiere
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Vargr: Military Organization
L. Leadership, can and could be divided into types.
M. Commissioned equivalent would be an externally recognized, and imposed, supposedly trained, junior commander.
N. Non commissioned equivalent, an experienced and organically risen through the ranks, leader.
O. Warrant equivalent, technically competent expert.
P. Political officer, appointed liaison.
L. Leadership, can and could be divided into types.
M. Commissioned equivalent would be an externally recognized, and imposed, supposedly trained, junior commander.
N. Non commissioned equivalent, an experienced and organically risen through the ranks, leader.
O. Warrant equivalent, technically competent expert.
P. Political officer, appointed liaison.
Not particularly. Maximum of 8, as that's the carnivoran standard for nipple count.
The illos imply maybe 4 functional, so probably mode of 3-4.
Also, canon (TD article on children) doesn't give large litters.
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Sub packs
Clique - female focussed grouping
Posse - male focussed grouping
Gang - legally challenged grouping
Crew - professionally focussed grouping
Team - task orientated grouping
Cell - closely coordinated task orientated grouping
Cabal - faction of pack leaders
Clique - female focussed grouping
Posse - male focussed grouping
Gang - legally challenged grouping
Crew - professionally focussed grouping
Team - task orientated grouping
Cell - closely coordinated task orientated grouping
Cabal - faction of pack leaders
IMTU I posit that the Uplift modifications included suppressing the abdominal and inguinal teats, leaving only the four thoracic teats. Subspecies with significant probability of nonviable or marginally viable pups* tend towards greater multiple births, accompanied by expression of the formerly suppressed teats.
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* Specifically the Roth Thokken, as IMTU they have the "Lethal White" gene (two copies of the merle coloration gene) which causes blindness and albinism -- and, inferred from canon, the merle coloration gene is strongly linked to psionic ability in Vargr. This also may occur due to environmental triggers on worlds with high ambient radiation levels, and in some cases also on worlds with tainted atmospheres where the local TL or customs constrain the use of necessary personal protective equipment.
Don't you mean makes footwear from K'kree?
Condottiere
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Vargr: Military Organization
Q. Odds are, Vargr aren't great as a baseball pitcher, with minus two on strength.
R. Though, plus one dexterity means that the ball is likely to go in the direction intended.
S. And that means that a hand grenade thrown by a Vargr is likely to land where it's supposed to, just not that far away.
T. An obvious solution to that, would be to lower the explosive force of the hand grenade.
U. To shrink the killing range.
Q. Odds are, Vargr aren't great as a baseball pitcher, with minus two on strength.
R. Though, plus one dexterity means that the ball is likely to go in the direction intended.
S. And that means that a hand grenade thrown by a Vargr is likely to land where it's supposed to, just not that far away.
T. An obvious solution to that, would be to lower the explosive force of the hand grenade.
U. To shrink the killing range.
