Alien Sex Gods (caution: Mature topic)
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Keklas Rekobah
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My bad, and my apologies as well.
The term 'Rishathra' originated in the book 'Ringworld' by Larry Niven.
The book (and it's sequel 'Ringworld Engineers') brought together the races of Human, Kzinti, Pierson's Puppeteer, and Pak Protectors. Also introduced were races of Ghouls and Vampires.
Aside from FTL travel, anagathics, and the 'Tree of Life', most of the items and technology (the 'gimmes') in these books were based on present-day principles.
All this makes for an enjoyable, if somewhat involved, reading.
The term 'Rishathra' originated in the book 'Ringworld' by Larry Niven.
The book (and it's sequel 'Ringworld Engineers') brought together the races of Human, Kzinti, Pierson's Puppeteer, and Pak Protectors. Also introduced were races of Ghouls and Vampires.
Aside from FTL travel, anagathics, and the 'Tree of Life', most of the items and technology (the 'gimmes') in these books were based on present-day principles.
All this makes for an enjoyable, if somewhat involved, reading.
Liam Devlin
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Thanks CPt Keklas rekobah! Refreshed me memory! "Rishathra", a better term than those we've bandied thus far! Stars fer ye fer rememberin it!
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Sophiathegreen
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I remember the Vilani and Terran are still close enought to crossbreed with each other and the crossbreed are ferile also. That the 3rd Imperium average citizen is than mixutes of Vilani and Terran blood.
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Sophiathegreen
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The Vilani and Terran donot look alike, it isnot lookOriginally posted by Jame:
Sure, Vilani and Solomani can in'erbreed, but can Vilani or Solly and JoeDanny?
on the outside that make species related to each other but what type of DNA and how many corespoon it
have that make interspecies breeding possible in the first place.
People,
AFAIK Vilani and Solomani are virtually indisinguishable. In addition, both (again IIRC) are Homo Sapiens Sapiens and so cross-breed without difficulty. Indeed if I remember the history correctly Vilani ancesters were Terran Cro-Magnon man some 50-100K years ago and so the two are as closely related as different racial types on Terra.
The Zhodani OTOH are a seperate sub-species IIRC. If I recall my biology correctly, that meanst that a Zho and Sol/Vil can crossbreed with perhaps some difficulty and the issue should be fertile. However, Zhos do (probalby from design) have a distinct genetic drift and said cross-breeds probably would as well I should think.
[In game terms I would rule any half-Zhos to be Zhos for game purposes.]
-Polaris
AFAIK Vilani and Solomani are virtually indisinguishable. In addition, both (again IIRC) are Homo Sapiens Sapiens and so cross-breed without difficulty. Indeed if I remember the history correctly Vilani ancesters were Terran Cro-Magnon man some 50-100K years ago and so the two are as closely related as different racial types on Terra.
The Zhodani OTOH are a seperate sub-species IIRC. If I recall my biology correctly, that meanst that a Zho and Sol/Vil can crossbreed with perhaps some difficulty and the issue should be fertile. However, Zhos do (probalby from design) have a distinct genetic drift and said cross-breeds probably would as well I should think.
[In game terms I would rule any half-Zhos to be Zhos for game purposes.]
-Polaris
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Agreed, though there are some hints of a tendency towards "a few extra pounds" and perhaps more of a tan than your average Solomani norm but that's likely not 100% genetic and of course doesn't present a genetic problem in crossbreeding.
Homo Zhdotlas (Supreme Man), actually the result of the mixing of two separate human species on Zhdant. Probably some Ancient meddling at some point as well. Yep most Zhodani are quite distinctive from the Imperium norm, though they have fewer genetic variations. (exp. only 28 teeth). Some blonds, very very few redheads.
Either GT: Alien Races 1 or GT I think mentions some Zhodani who look (and genetically are) more like the Imperium norm and are often used as spies in the Imperium. They're mainly (IIRC) the result of the Imperium's Psionic Supressions when many Psionics fled into Zhodani space (or returned there depending on how conspiracy minded and Imperium biased you are). Probably in a sidebar somewhere.
Yep. If the Zhodani is part of the GT "sub-group" (see above) some physical characteristics may vary from the Zhodani norm. So perhaps some slight difference in say Gurps terms but not t20.
"Minor" humans would probably be cross-fertile with other human species though with such a wide range there are bound to be some exceptions. IMO whatever works best for roleplay/character concept unless you're following a detailed already extant minor human race and want to stick to Canon.
Now as to human whatever and say Vargr and/or Aslan, well there's a certain "medical document" on that. Let's just say, the act is physically possible IMTU and leave it at that for now.
Well except for the obligatory Something Positive comic (and the next one). So very NSFW so please be careful where you are before you click on the link.
Don't click on this if you are at work etc. Other combinations, well I'm sure there's something out there that'd go for it.
Finally, I'm hopefully the only one that instantly thought this topic was about Tekumel after reading the title "Alien Sex Gods".
Casey
Warning to RabidVargr re: Air Force Pinkies!
I have a young friend of that persuasion. A sweet young thing who:
Can bench-press a Buick
Played rugby in addition to varsity wrestling and professional football
Knows her way around a cannon (as in muzzle-loading, black powder, makes really big boom cannon)
Has a beer named for her!
Oh, and should be earning her Fighter Pilot designation about the same time the F/A 22 starts getting fielded (assuming it ever does)
So smile when you call them pinkies!!
An article referencing the aforesaid.
Denver Post
I have a young friend of that persuasion. A sweet young thing who:
Can bench-press a Buick
Played rugby in addition to varsity wrestling and professional football
Knows her way around a cannon (as in muzzle-loading, black powder, makes really big boom cannon)
Has a beer named for her!
Oh, and should be earning her Fighter Pilot designation about the same time the F/A 22 starts getting fielded (assuming it ever does)
So smile when you call them pinkies!!
An article referencing the aforesaid.
Denver Post
RabidVargr
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Oh, I do... (Smiles and licks chops)
RV
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What happens if a your offspring starts running with a bad bunch of Vargr....Oh the shame....Originally posted by trader jim:
well.....me and my Aslan Girlfriend think its ok!!!!.....of course she is a kinda kinky kitty.....hey...kinda kinky kitty...it sings!!!!
hehehehehheheheheh...
Jason M Durkish
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In my universe
Yes
No different species are not cross fertile .
If people of two different species wish to have a child .
They would need help from science (Geno Alchemy) .
Which is illegal on most human worlds .
Although Rishtatra is not illegal or immoral on most worlds.
But some inter species relationships will raise more eyebrows then others
Yes
No different species are not cross fertile .
If people of two different species wish to have a child .
They would need help from science (Geno Alchemy) .
Which is illegal on most human worlds .
Although Rishtatra is not illegal or immoral on most worlds.
But some inter species relationships will raise more eyebrows then others
selunatic2397
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An 11 year old thread necromancy!...WOW!
But Wait, There's More!
Yay for thread necromancy! So, having just read this entire thread, I have to take exception to the idea that Zhodani can not interbreed with Vilani or Solomani. We now know that Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens did indeed interbreed and those are two distinct species of human, so exactly why shouldn't Zho be able to breed with other humans?
Oh and while it hasn't come up in game play, thanks to CJ Cherryh I am all for the naughty alien fun times, Tully truly went where no man had gone before. So if I ever get to the Union-Alliance/Compact space universe, I am sooo looking up Hilfy Chanur. :devil:
Yay for thread necromancy! So, having just read this entire thread, I have to take exception to the idea that Zhodani can not interbreed with Vilani or Solomani. We now know that Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens did indeed interbreed and those are two distinct species of human, so exactly why shouldn't Zho be able to breed with other humans?
Oh and while it hasn't come up in game play, thanks to CJ Cherryh I am all for the naughty alien fun times, Tully truly went where no man had gone before. So if I ever get to the Union-Alliance/Compact space universe, I am sooo looking up Hilfy Chanur. :devil:
If we know that (which I hadn't heard that we do1), then we also know that Neanderthals are not a distinct species of human but a subspecies of Homo sapiens, namely Homo sapiens neanderthalensis capable of interbreeding with Homo sapiens sapiens.
1 I know that it has been a subject of debate for decades, but I didn't know that the debate had been resolved.
Hans
Ahhh.
As to the Neanderthal question, yes, last I heard it had been resolved as we have done the teeth DNA mapping and it turns out we can find markers that belong to them in our modern human DNA and there is some speculation that some of our (modern human) disease resistance may be from Neanderthals. Caught a NOVA on PBS where they discussed it, turns out some of the research is being done here in Wisconsin (UW-Madison to be exact) and some in Germany (though I am foggy on where, I want to say Max Plank Institute of something or another). So, yeah, last I heard it was settled. Neanderthals were a different humanoid species and we (homo sapiens) bred with them. Not a lot since the percentage of Neanderthal DNA in most, but not all modern humans (with French and Tuscan descended humans having the largest percentages) like 2-6%.
Oh, so it is just the Zho getting all high and mighty. Well, that is not so terrible, now I have something to hold against them and their almost perfect, rational society.
As to the Neanderthal question, yes, last I heard it had been resolved as we have done the teeth DNA mapping and it turns out we can find markers that belong to them in our modern human DNA and there is some speculation that some of our (modern human) disease resistance may be from Neanderthals. Caught a NOVA on PBS where they discussed it, turns out some of the research is being done here in Wisconsin (UW-Madison to be exact) and some in Germany (though I am foggy on where, I want to say Max Plank Institute of something or another). So, yeah, last I heard it was settled. Neanderthals were a different humanoid species and we (homo sapiens) bred with them. Not a lot since the percentage of Neanderthal DNA in most, but not all modern humans (with French and Tuscan descended humans having the largest percentages) like 2-6%.
Ackehece
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Is this necro in response to http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=24876
being necro'd?
being necro'd?
Interesting.
That's the bit I don't get. On what basis are Neanderthals considered a different hominid species if they could interbreed with us?
Hans
Well, not being a scientist, but merely an interested student, I go with morphology and the difference in DNA, sort of like chimps which share 98% of their DNA with us humans, yet no one calls them human (though based on the culture, tool use, making war, and of course their enjoyment of those human tendencies for murder and rape one could say they are pretty damned close to human by more than just chemical makeup).
Sure, IMTU there is enough beer.
Once upon a time I allowed cross-breeding, and it was OK when I was just starting out with the game in '77 and was only 15. It seemed like either our imaginations were more free-wheeling back then at that age, or we just didn't think things through more. Probably all of the above.
Later on the fad wore off and seemed too D&D to me anyway. Unfortunately with the advent of ST: Next Gen (oh, how I curse the heresy of that show!) it was suddenly all the rage again. There was no freaking way I was going to allow the players to turn my game into a NASCAR-wreck of transgenic furrydom. There just wouldn't be enough latex in the galaxy for all the forehead appliances, anyway.
One word: somewhere in the farthest reaches of Solomani Space, where the JSA probably launched a few ships way back in the day there exists the last known copy of Urotsukidoji.
If you wanna watch it and see the horror that has driven curious Scouts mad with unslakable lust for tentacled, gooey beasts with myriad orifices and slippery slime you can try it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzaLBrmQYg