ThunderChilde
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Thinking about running a series of adventures outside the Marches, Spinward of 5 sisters. Is there or was there anything published? How about the other sectors out there?
A question about the Spinward regions beyond the marches
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That would be the Foreven sector. It was intentionally left undeveloped by GDW so referees could develop their own versions safe in the knowledge that they wouldn't clash with any future canon products. However, GDW did publish a dot map with political boundaries and 6 stat'd systems (one of which is featured in Double Adventure 5 - Chamax Plague/Horde). That map was in Imperiallines #1 IIRC.
And don't forget, the Foreven Development Pack. Mongoose and FFE have declared Foreven OPEN for development by everyone but Mongoose and FFE. Anyone wanting to publish a Foreven supplement can, full TTL and everything.
Note that the map in the Mongoose development pack is SLIGHTLY different than the Imperiallines map... Use the newer map. You can download it off of Mongoose's website.
Also, I've always considered that corner the ideal setting for a game but never gotten around to setting one up.
Note that the map in the Mongoose development pack is SLIGHTLY different than the Imperiallines map... Use the newer map. You can download it off of Mongoose's website.
Also, I've always considered that corner the ideal setting for a game but never gotten around to setting one up.
http://traveller.wikia.com/wiki/Vanguard_Reaches
And a little farther over the Far Frontiers which is featured in several FASA books and the Traveller Chronicle.
You can get world data for all at:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970522162511/http://www.inlink.com/~scoundrl/paranoia.htm
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And a little farther over the Far Frontiers which is featured in several FASA books and the Traveller Chronicle.
You can get world data for all at:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970522162511/http://www.inlink.com/~scoundrl/paranoia.htm
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I agree, it has a very "frontier" feel with so much nearby that almost anything is feasible (Imperials, Vargr, Aslan, Zhodani, Darrians, pirate bases, etc.) Spindward Marches was the "frontier" but it has been covered in so much detail that it seems to have lost that frontier feel for me.
I don't think it's the amount of detail that has cost the Spinward Marches its frontier feel so much as the realization by those who did the detailing that 1000 years is a long time for an area to remain a frontier. After all, I don't think more than 10% of the worlds in the Spinward Marches has received more than a paragraph of description. Well... maybe a bit more than 10%. Anyway, there's plenty of room for more detailing.
The old CT adventure Leviathan is a good example. It was written when the OTU was very nebulous and portrays Egyrn subsector as practically unknown to the people living in Glisten. Later we found out that the rimward half of Trojan Reach has been settled by Aslans for more than half a millenium and that there's been trade between them and Glisten since Year 400 or so. And there are worlds in the "buffer zone" that has been populated for 3,000 years and has interstellar technology. What are the odds that the Buffer Zone hasn't already had hundreds or thousands of merchant explorers, scientific expeditions, and rich dilletants nosing through it for the last 700 years? With enough essays, scientific papers, and memoirs published to fill a small library? In my opinion, zero. The Buffer Zone may well be a "wild", but it's not an unknown wild in 1107.
So, yes, the Spinward Marches has it's share of non-frontier worlds. But then, so would Foreven. After all, it's been colonized at least since 500 (The reason the Zhodani started the First Frontier War was that Imperial ettlers were moving into Foreven and preempting worlds that the Consulate saw as future expanion objects).
Hans
Captain Midnight
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I think there's confusion in some people's minds about the difference between "border" and "frontier" (with some additional confusion about "backwater", too). Even though in much of the old CT material, we aren't given much detail about what's out there off the maps, that doesn't mean that it was uninhabited or unexplored. There might very well be newer colonies, but even those have (for the most part) been around for quite some time. It's not like Foreven Sector is the Louisiana Purchase, after all.
It's also easy to forget the length of time that many of these world have been settled, and had active starfaring technologies. It would seem unlikely to be noteworthy to have a shipping business started by your grandfather's grandfather's grandfather's grandfather -- at around 25 years per generation, that would set the company founding back just before the Third Frontier War. While 21st-century small/medium businesses often struggle to survive past the century mark, we shouldn't forget the history that's been built up in Charted Space.
It's also easy to forget the length of time that many of these world have been settled, and had active starfaring technologies. It would seem unlikely to be noteworthy to have a shipping business started by your grandfather's grandfather's grandfather's grandfather -- at around 25 years per generation, that would set the company founding back just before the Third Frontier War. While 21st-century small/medium businesses often struggle to survive past the century mark, we shouldn't forget the history that's been built up in Charted Space.
ThunderChilde
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Thank you for the responces so far. Not that cannon is an absolute limit on YTU, what is the current state of the Beyond Sector? I heard it had been declared non-cannonical, yet later some one else had returned it to cannon with very few changes. A little light on the particulars and where I might look for more detail, or try to scrounge up a copy would be most appreciated.
Captain Midnight
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I'd try looking at the Traveller Wiki entry. It discusses the sector, and the link to the sector data discusses some of the history of the data.
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