100-dTon TL 12 Prison Transport

[Spinward Flow]

they choose to stick to the RAW or your opinion that the RAW is inherently ‘wrong’.

I started with precedent and worked within it to find a solution (medical skill = +DM to low berth resuscitation roll, medical-2+ adds addtional +1 DM as cited explicitly in skill text). I did not deny the opportunity for contextual -DMs to be applied, depending on circumstances as deemed relevant by the Referee.

The counter argument relies on the "break the rules/precedents whenever it's convenient" clause ... as (correctly!) cited by @mike wightman ...

The above listing of skills and game effects must necessarily be taken as a guide, and followed, altered, or ignored as the actual situation dictates.

So if I may summarize ...

• RAW applies when it's convenient
• RAW doesn't apply when it's NOT convenient

Which in discussions like this only swings the door (WIDE!) open to the "RAW for me, but not for thee!" arguments being put forward by both sides. Needless to say, the two perspectives are fundamentally INCOMPATIBLE with each other.

At which point, you have to ask ... which is "closer" to the intended usage (in this instance)?

1. Skill Level = +/-DM
2. Skill Level / 2 = +/-DM
3. Skill Level * 2 = +/-DM
4. Skill Level = no DM at all

Typically, in the LBBs (especially in 1-3), in the absence of RAW text stating otherwise (thus making an explicit exception) ... option 1 tends to be the "assumed/common/usual" standard baseline assumption for CT.

But, if it means "failing to win an argument" on the subject ... then it can't be option 1 ... so only options 2-4 remain available.
Anyone who points this out in clear and no uncertain terms ... well, they're just being RUDE and argumentative!
And we all know where that leads ...

 

[kilemall]

2 looks closer to RAW to me, along with no chance for elimination of lethality.

I don’t really care how this argument goes either way, if I will override Emperor Marc on rules I sure won’t worry about forum opinion on something I’ve decided to do and I would expect to give the same courtesy to any others.

Still useful to discuss to wring out any inconsistencies or problems, and to clarify what effect the original RAW had/intended and what changing it will do.

 

[Spinward Flow]

Still useful to discuss to wring out any inconsistencies or problems, and to clarify what effect the original RAW had/intended and what changing it will do.

 

[Vargr Breath]

How about a DM for how many times the character has been in low passage? Every time you go into low passage your chance of coming out alive is less. Like the added medical skill +DM this would be a YTU addition.

 

[mike wightman]

Another option is to have a technological DM as well as the medic. Nothing in the rules to stop you inventing a low berth trauma kit that adds 1 to resuscitation rolls, or a drug that grants +2. If you as a referee want to lower the chance of death then there are options that the game encourages you to invent.

 

[Vargr Breath]

Another option is to have a technological DM as well as the medic. Nothing in the rules to stop you inventing a low berth trauma kit that adds 1 to resuscitation rolls, or a drug that grants +2. If you as a referee want to lower the chance of death then there are options that the game encourages you to invent.

I like this, as technological levels go up your chances of living are better. But this like the other options are YTU and not RAW. I never liked the lethality of low passage so any of the options we are talking about sound good to me.

 

[bookwyrm]

I remember when I first read about how bad it is to travel by low berth, I couldn't help but wonder just how desperate one would need to be to travel this way. On top of that, doctors/medics/medtechs with a high enough skill to make travelling this way less dangerous would probably be working for ship lines while those with barely any medical knowledge (or a problem like drug addiction, drunkenness, shaky hands) are working on those tramps which only the desperate will travel by low berth.

One part of me really doesn't like the awful chances of using low berth, but on the other hand, I like how it's a part of the darkness that's Traveller. Do you wait 3 days for the scheduled liner that has a great reputation or take your chances with the disreputable tramp with dark rumors surrounding it that's leaving in a few hours?

 

[whartung]

Perhaps an END DM as well could come to play.