Vargr Extents

[Blue Ghost]

I've been looking for a canon map of the Vargr extents. All I have is my old DGP publication on 'Vilani and Vargr", and the map provided isn't a high enough resolution to really place any of the stars on a sector map.

Does such a map showing the stars exist? No system data, just the map.

Thanks for any reply.

 

[far-trader]

The first row of sectors (bordering the Imperium) in the region can be found here:

http://www.utzig.com/traveller/iai.shtml

(scroll down and click "Browse the Atlas" then click the sectors for details)

 

[inexorabletash]

John G. Wood's Underdeveloped Sectors page sounds like exactly what you need:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/elvwood/Traveller/Sectors/

Note that this is reverse-engineered from the V&V dotmap so it may have errors. And many of the sectors have not been manually reviewed.

I use this data (w/ permission) on the TravellerMap.com map.

 

[Blue Ghost]

Thanks. I'm looking for something canon for an adventure I'm writing. I guess this is the best that's available.

 

[Whipsnade]

BG,

The Vargr Alien Module for CT has the entire Gvurrdon Sector in it complete with a map and UWPs.


Regards,
Bill

 

[G. Kashkanun Anderson]

I have a dot-map overlay chart of about 80% of the Vargr Extents that I'll post here in a heartbeat, if anyone can tell me that it's alright to do it. The resolution isn't the best, but it was good enough for my use.

I built it from publicly available sources, and the "art" part of it is all mine, so I think it's all right. But the dot-map part was taken from the TravellerMap.com map.

If anybody here knows enough to tell me whether or not I can go ahead and post it, I'd appreciate it.

 

[rancke]

The Vargr Alien Module for CT has the entire Gvurrdon Sector in it complete with a map and UWPs.

Unvetted UWPs, though, so the word 'complete' is perhaps not the most appropriate . The 40th Squadron, for example, has a combined population far too small to field a destroyer squadron, let alone anything that could pose a threat to the Imperium.


Hans

 

[Whipsnade]

Unvetted UWPs, though, so the word 'complete' is perhaps not the most appropriate.

Hans,

"Unvetted"? Try published directly by GDW instead.

How many sectors can claim that? There's the Marches, Rim, Hinters, and how many others?

The 40th Squadron, for example, has a combined population far too small to field a destroyer squadron, let alone anything that could pose a threat to the Imperium.

Nits, nothing but nits. So the AM3 writers in 1984 overlooked the FFW countermix from 1981. Does that mean the rest of the sector is suspect too?

We've a sector published directly by GDW and one whose data has been evidently recycled through any number of follow-up publications and websites.

Petition Marc or Don to make the population changes and move on.


Regards,
Bill

 

[rancke]

"Unvetted"? Try published directly by GDW instead.

Same thing.

How many sectors can claim that? There's the Marches, Rim, Hinters, and how many others?

All canonically published UWPs that I know of are unvetted. That's one of my biggest beefs with GDW (and all its successors). IMO a set of random UWPs isn't a finished product.

Nits, nothing but nits. So the AM3 writers in 1984 overlooked the FFW countermix from 1981. Does that mean the rest of the sector is suspect too?

Well, duh! Yes, it does mean that. But what I said was that the map and one page of UWPs in Vargr are very far from being anywhere near complete.

We've a sector published directly by GDW and one whose data has been evidently recycled through any number of follow-up publications and websites.

And with some new material added from time to time. Including the world with a very low population neatly divided in two widely separated settlements that can nevertheless afford to maintain a regular bus service between the two.


Hans

 

[Blue Ghost]

Well, it's for a submission I want to do, and I was hoping to at least get the stars right, but not neccesarily the UWPs. I figured I'd be spending a few days generating the systems, characters and other details.

The Extents seems to be an untapped gold mine for lots of interesting stuff, so I'm going for it. Right now I've got four readers going through my extremely rough draft. Once I bang out the kinks, it's system generating time.

Thanks for the input.

 

[Swiftbrook]

I've been looking for a canon map of the Vargr extents. All I have is my old DGP publication on 'Vilani and Vargr", and the map provided isn't a high enough resolution to really place any of the stars on a sector map.

Does such a map showing the stars exist? No system data, just the map.

Thanks for any reply.

We get letters and phone calls from time to time from gamers wanting the "official" locations for the worlds on those (dot) maps, since they can't quite tell what parsec some of the worlds are in. Again let me repeat our stand: we have no intention of detailing the worlds outside the Imperial region -- in fact we are so intent on following through with this stand that we have deleted the world position details used to gererate those maps. (snip)

This makes the answer to your question quite simple: there is not nor will there ever be any officail data about the worlds shown on these maps. (snip)

Hope this helps.

-Swiftbrook

 

[Blue Ghost]

It helps a great deal actually. Which means I don't have to research the astronomy anymore, and save myself some man hours.

Thanks much.

 

[Theophilus]

Hans,

How many sectors can claim that? There's the Marches, Rim, Hinters, and how many others?

Mendan, and the H'kar? race?
Deneb, Corridor, Lishun, Vland, If you include DGP stuff, a lot more.

Two subsectors in Reavers deep and five in Old Expanses, if you include the Keith brothers work.

Diaspora, under Megatraveller and TNE, Old Expanses as well in TNE.

 

[DonM]

I maintain a list on my website of published sectors... http://dmckinne.winterwar.org/trav.html.