I do think that all of this is really good I like the work done on the above. I also believe that in the Imperium that wouldnt anything like a title be attached to the passport, and/or a Birth certificate. Or would all of it be bundled together in a travel document that combines passport with any titles, birth certificate, maybe even service records. These would be tied into multiple methods to prevent forgory with I am thinking a DNA marker and other items. With some method of databasing the documents over a wide range to prove as an real document. I mean they have to have a way of keeping track of TAS membership passage voucher payouts. Otherwise everyone would go from system to system saying I havent gotten my high passage yet. And being able to stay ahead of the info saying they have gotten it. Yes I understand that in the imperium that this would be more then anything an Electronic book so it could be readily updated. It might even recieve the power needed via a bio feedback system that would only allow it to work with the proper owner by comparing DNA with the stored record on it, for full functionality and Minor functionality by anyone to see who owned it. This could even hold TAS membership and be activated for passage voucher's and such. It would be a very important piece of equipment for all travellers. Now for an offnote it would rock if you could make one (Paperwise) like a real passport with a character's info including all of the needed stuff for playing purpose. It would be the players character sheet with all of his info needed for play.
Traveller Birth Certificate Project
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Just a little food for thought.
This is one of the designs for a proposed National ID Card,
The image is pretty small but appears to contain.
-Identification Information (name, address, ID number, etc)
-Photo Id
-Retina Scan
-Finger print
-DNA profile
- It probably also contains some sort of RFID chip/magnetic strip
Its missing any sort of official country seal, but that could be placed as ahologram either in the background or as a polymer layover like currentdrivers licenses have.
Here is a quick and dirty mock up for an ID card I may use for my game.
This is one of the designs for a proposed National ID Card,
The image is pretty small but appears to contain.
-Identification Information (name, address, ID number, etc)
-Photo Id
-Retina Scan
-Finger print
-DNA profile
- It probably also contains some sort of RFID chip/magnetic strip
Its missing any sort of official country seal, but that could be placed as ahologram either in the background or as a polymer layover like currentdrivers licenses have.
Here is a quick and dirty mock up for an ID card I may use for my game.
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Just an FYI
I do genealogy research and ANY Vital Records (Birth, death, marriage) that stay consistent in the same STATE for more than 10-15 years let alone a nation, world or empire. Would leave the realm of science fiction and enter the realm major miracle (Moses parting the Red Sea was a lucky chance type of miracle).
Also a good place to look for ID ideas is CT LBB Supplement 12 Forms & Charts
Just because you can pilot a starship that TL 8 Police Officer still wants to see a card with your picture on it that says you know how to drive that wheeled ATV that you just used to run over 3 parked cars with.:smirk:
I do genealogy research and ANY Vital Records (Birth, death, marriage) that stay consistent in the same STATE for more than 10-15 years let alone a nation, world or empire. Would leave the realm of science fiction and enter the realm major miracle (Moses parting the Red Sea was a lucky chance type of miracle).
Also a good place to look for ID ideas is CT LBB Supplement 12 Forms & Charts
Just because you can pilot a starship that TL 8 Police Officer still wants to see a card with your picture on it that says you know how to drive that wheeled ATV that you just used to run over 3 parked cars with.:smirk:
Peter Newman
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It also said that the coins are made the same way and the illustration of the coins [CT TTA pg. 141] shows that they have both a heads and a tails. The easiest way to do this is to have the plastic threads change color and then slice them so that different features show up on either side. If you are willing to do this for the coins you'd probably do so for the bills as well. The text says "The different colored fibers form the fabric of the bill." That text does not seem to clearly establish that the fibers are of uniform color for their whole length.
For example if Arbellatra on the throne is on the Cr 50 bill then the fiber might be iridium colored on part of the face but a 20th of a mm later (on the back of the bill) that fiber might be blue where it shows one of Sylea's oceans from space.
Actually, the easiest way for coins is to bond two separate pieces together.
In the thicknesses we're talking for currency, the precision needed is enough to raise the costs sufficiently that I don't see double sided as worth the much higher precision needed for the quantities.
I can see metalizing some threads for conductivity checking... but really, considering the thinness, and the losses to laser cutting already (as in, probably losing 1/3 to 1/4 the stack thickness to cut it down to the sheets) and that's a 0.1mm beam to get 1/3, and 0.066 to get 1/4. Doable, but that's going to need some help preventing vaporized material inhibiting further cut.
Also, that illo in TTB doesn't explicitly show a tails - it shows 4 different coins. Each is a different size. could be they're all just colored slugs. Cold be their laser etched down for texturing, in which case, the reverse (tails) could be just a texture, or even inked in.
Peter Newman
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But one of them has the number one on it and two of them have faces on them (the smallest one is too small for me to tell). Unless the Imperium puts a denomination on the CR 1 coin but not on the other denominations then that's a 'tail' on the one and a 'head' on the other two. Oh, sure the Imperium could do that but coins have had different sides for thousands of years now and it seems likely that they will in the future.
It would be even easier (given the requisite knowledge) to make the fibers polarized. Sifferent color depending on which end you were looking at. Just think about how complicated the bundles of fibers would be. (Remember, with currency, complication is a virtue).
IIRC Loren Wiseman once said that the intention was that bills had reversed reverses. (I could be misremembering, though). But the text doesn't actually say so explicitly, and I've always though the polarized fibers idea was so nifty, so I'm all in favor of using it.
Hans
Timerover51
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Going back to more of the original purpose of the thread, has anyone ever seen or made press credentials for Traveller? I was looking through Wolseley's Soldiers Pocket Book (1886 edition) which has a form for press credentials that could be adapted to Traveller.
far-trader
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CT Supplement 12 "Forms and Charts" includes a Traveller News Service press ID card.
Timerover51
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Yes, I saw that. That simply indicates that the person is a member of the press. What I am looking at is something which gives a member of the press approval to accompany a military or civilian expedition, subject to certain restrictions.
"The bearer of this warrant is acting for the good of the Imperium and the Emperor. Extend him every assistance.
Strephon
Hans
That won't be a card. That'll be a set of travel orders, plus a separate set of authorization orders addressed to the expedition commander.
It's not uncommon for civilians to travel on military travel orders - my dad did so quite a bit as a civil servant, and dependents often do so - but you get travel orders of some form. The civilian equivalent is a ticket... And when travel orders include civilian passage, you get both the orders and the ticket....
The expedition commander gets orders direct from some authority saying the individual is to be allowed to accompany, what their position (if any) in the expedition is, and what accesses they are to have shipboard.
If the mode of transport is a designated transport, travel orders alone are good enough. For example, if a fleet courier is going the correct direction to meet up, no authorization orders are needed - the courier has passage rooms for travel under orders. The skipper can essentially confine the passenger to quarters, but the orders will be enough to go on board that courier. A warship, tho', will probably want authorization orders.
In the OTU, there's one other possibility. A Warrant. Either the Emperor, or an archduke or duke can warrant the individual to accompany. This is much the same as orders, except that it's pure civil 3I... and if not from the Emperor, is subject to the issuer's astrographic limitations on authority.
Timerover51
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"The bearer of this warrant is acting for the good of the Imperium and the Emperor. Extend him every assistance.
Strephon
Hans
That is not going to do a whole lot of good in the Sword Worlds, the Darrian Confederation, the Vargr Extents, and most definitely not in the Solomani Rim. In the latter area, it just might get you killed. In all of the named areas, it also might get you arrested as a spy.
Aramis, I am familiar with travel and authorization orders, as my wife flew under them when the Army was med-evacing me from Fort Richardson to Walter Reed in DC. The travel orders put her on the C-141 and the C-9 Nightgale, while the authorization orders allowed her military quarters and a per diem allowance while in DC.
What I was thinking was more along the following lines, the material is taken from General Viscount Garnet Wolseley's "The Soldier's Pocket Book for Field Service", 1886 edition. As far as I know, that is now in the public domain.
And putting this and the other information recommended on a card, Wolseley specifies a 5.5" X 3.5" card, to be carrying by the news correspondent at all times. He also gives the Rules for Correspondents in the accompanying text to the license.
The text would need to be updated for Traveller use, but it would be a general purpose card, which could be issued by either a planet government for use on a planet, or anyone else who would have the necessary authority. Doing the layout should not be too hard, and I would need to type up and update the rules.
The question is, would be be sufficient interest for me to do so?
I did add four smileys to indicate that I was not being quite serious. But come to that, a genuine Imperial warrant (not the bogus one I quoted) is going to do at least as much good as anything else that could be issued by any Imperial authority, and usually quite a bit better, in the Sword Worlds, the Darrian Confederation, the Vargr Extents, the Solomani Rim, and anywhere else in and out of the Imperium. A warrant may get you killed in some places, but so would any other sort of Imperial papers.
Sure, sounds useful.
Hans
A warrant is about the only thing that gets a pressman relatively unfettered access.
And, outside the 3I, no imperial paper is worth anything except to Imperials, and then, only a little.
Of course, a fake warrant being turned over with it's bearer to a local duke would be received almost as gratefully by the Duke as returning a valid warrant holder... (which might range from greatly to grudging acceptance.)
And, outside the 3I, no imperial paper is worth anything except to Imperials, and then, only a little.
Of course, a fake warrant being turned over with it's bearer to a local duke would be received almost as gratefully by the Duke as returning a valid warrant holder... (which might range from greatly to grudging acceptance.)
Timerover51
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I was thinking of a license that could be used by those players outside of the Imperium, and also a player licensed by a specific government unit for a specific area, time, or conflict. I will work one up in PDF format, and when I do, where should I post it?
Files area. Under the COTI Features menu.
Timerover51
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Thank you.
