Sup-3 vs SMC: Canon question

[Carlobrand]

In researching Supplement-3 and the Spinward Marches Campaign module, I've run across some discrepancies that can't easily be accounted for. For example, Reno (Cronor subsector) seems to have changed from C1227B9-A to C1207B9-A - it's lost all its water. 769-422 (Five Sisters subsector) changed from E754401-A to E754401-8 - it lost tech.

I doubt anyone pays close enough attention that it will matter, and I'm pretty good at waving my hands and inventing justifications on the fly, but I'm wondering if there's been a standard handed down on which source is considered "canon," or maybe if there's an errata page that I don't have.

(Add: and there seems to have been a major change in Cronor's government and law levels. The light-handed oligarchy's been replaced with a somewhat more authoritarian charismatic dictatorship. How does that happen in Zhodani space??)

 

[BytePro]

IIRC, ran across something recently (here or maybe on www.travellermap.com blog) that mentioned Supp 3 is based on a 1105, while the Campaign Module reflects mapping a year after the FFW... (TL decrease seems reasonable, loss of water, a little stranger, but could have nothing to do with war...)

So, both are probably considered 'canon' - just have to pick a time frame.

 

[Starviking]

Water loss could be a seasonal ice cap evaporating - or an estimation of sub-surface resources being outdated or erroneous.

 

[mike wightman]

More than likely it is a typo issue - SMC is chock full of them.

For example, if you compare the character generation tables with the original versions in S:4 you will notice cut and paste errors and table duplication.

The biggest one though is how the TL of Regina is raised - and then people have argued that it was a deliberate change

 

[rancke]

The biggest one though is how the TL of Regina is raised - and then people have argued that it was a deliberate change

Not me. I've argued that it MAY have been a deliberate change -- there are a number of them in SMC -- but that it really doesn't matter if it's accidental or deliberate; what's important is that a TL of 12 works better than a TL of 10.

(If it had been deliberate, I'd have expected a TL of 13 rather than 12, but 12 is good enough if one assumes that Regina's space TL in one higher than its high common TL. The real answer to that particular controversy is that Regina's TL has been deliberately retained as TL12.)

The other changes can be checked by having a look in Regency Sourcebook. (Can't find my own copy ATM).


Hans

 

[Tobias]

Is there a list of all the changes somewhere?

 

[rancke]

In researching Supplement-3 and the Spinward Marches Campaign module, I've run across some discrepancies that can't easily be accounted for. For example, Reno (Cronor subsector) seems to have changed from C1227B9-A to C1207B9-A - it's lost all its water. 769-422 (Five Sisters subsector) changed from E754401-A to E754401-8 - it lost tech.

According to the UWPs in MT:Imperial Encyclopedia, Reno has a hydrography of 0 and it also has a 'De' trade classification.

769--422 has a TL of 8.

Cronor has a government type A.


Hans

 

[Whipsnade]

(Add: and there seems to have been a major change in Cronor's government and law levels. The light-handed oligarchy's been replaced with a somewhat more authoritarian charismatic dictatorship. How does that happen in Zhodani space??)

It's been stated in canon several times that the Consulate has been moving at a glacial pace to "fully integrate" the many Imperial-settled, Zhodani-controlled worlds in Cronor, Querion, and elsewhere. In other words, while the worlds may be part of the Consulate's territory they are not yet fully part of the Consulate's culture.

Remember, aside from exploration-driven settlement along the Core Route, the Consulate's borders have been basically fixed since before the Second Imperium fell. The Consulate's presence in the Marches is one of deterrence just as the Imperium's presence in the Marches is due to the millennia-old political deal which brought Vland on board.

After all, the Spinward Marches weren't called "marches" for no reason.

 

[DonM]

I've tried to track some of this in the errata... Please look there for more details.