Small ship universe

[Ishmael]

its called a baseline from which other measurements are taken. Its no more or less arbitrary than any other 'baseline' when discussing Traveller ship's/tech.
The volume and mass are no-brainers considering the accepted standards, as is the AV value of 40 from MT design sequences. The only questionable assumption is the 10g capability of a 100dt hull. I chose this to keep the math simple, mostly. I'd guess that it should be significantly less ( 2 g ship with 150% safety margin...should I have used 3g instead? then ships would really suffer as they grow larger ).

10,000 tonnes/thrust is 10g*1000tonnes.

what would you have used as a baseline for this sort of thing? After all, you clearly feel it is wrong, so what would you suggest?

Its obviously houserules of my own design....

 

[HG_B]

The only questionable assumption is the 10g capability of a 100dt hull. I chose this to keep the math simple, mostly. I'd guess that it should be significantly less ( 2 g ship with 150% safety margin...should I have used 3g instead?

Nope. Considering the advanced materials (compared to today's) and the fact that they will be expected to to handle high speed de-orbiting, hypersonic skimming in turbulent GG atmospheres, etc., should be at least 20 G shock allowance.

 

[Ishmael]

Based on FFS1, bonded superdense is 14 times stronger than hardened steel while having nearly twice the density. aka, it is only about 3.5 times tougher per unit mass. Ed Fok's materials list indicates that boron composites ( among others ) are much better although taking up a bit more volume.

In any case, you're bringing up re-entry and skimming which have issues of their own in terms of being hard-to-swallow as Traveller depicts it. Large ships ( even small ships of the OTU ) have significant frontal cross-sectional areas compared to what we use on Earth making things worse.

So, hulls stressed for at least 20g's.... much much more than humans or other cargo can manage, even with power-hungry grav -tech. Why would they over-engineer things to such an extent?

 

[silversides207]

Nice Thread Resurrect! If you have something to contribute, great! If you want more detail on something, quote a post and ask! If you want to debate something, quote a post and say what you would do differently!

We'll only get annoyed if you do it just to argue (that's a fuzzy line...) or to insult and such. Otherwise, come on in! The water's nice and warm.

Warm, then when is Timerover51 leaving the site? Looks like he views it as being highly unwelcoming, if not disgusting.

 

[McPerth]

Warm, then when is Timerover51 leaving the site? Looks like he views it as being highly unwelcoming, if not disgusting.

You should ask him, I guess.

Most of us found it wellcoming when joined. And my first discussion here was to controvert Aramis, but it was about an MT rules detail and both of us behaved politely, if that serves as example...

 

[McPerth]

As it seems to be quite an interest on Silversides207 universe, and he posted some of his ideas about it in another thread (where it was quite off topic), I splited it and can be found in this thread: http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=30321

 

[silversides207]

As it seems to be quite an interest on Silversides207 universe, and he posted some of his ideas about it in another thread (where it was quite off topic), I splited it and can be found in this thread: http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=30321

Thanks for making me such a convenient target.

 

[Fritz_Brown]

Warm, then when is Timerover51 leaving the site? Looks like he views it as being highly unwelcoming, if not disgusting.

I won't discuss "personnel actions", but timerover doesn't have to leave; some of us have enjoyed his input and his ideas. He has decided to do so over a particular incident, which is unfortunate.

You are welcome here. Just, please use the spittoon (not the floor), don't shoot the piano player, and you can always walk away from someone with whom you just don't see eye-to-eye (you don't *have* to shoot him).

 

[McPerth]

Thanks for making me such a convenient target.

It was not me who raised the interest about YTU, and, in any case, it seemed interesting enough when you first posted it.