So I'm going to try my hand at making a cardboard model of a Scout/Courier. 1:120 scale. Any suggestions? Anything I should avoid?
Scout/Courier model
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Some inspiration here:
http://www.geocities.ws/ciocc_cat/typej.html
if you hadn't run across this already.
Are you going to do an interior or just the external hull? Also, depending on what you mean by cardboard you might want to consider a solid deck to use as a frame; something like foam core or thin plywood/bass wood.
http://www.geocities.ws/ciocc_cat/typej.html
if you hadn't run across this already.
Are you going to do an interior or just the external hull? Also, depending on what you mean by cardboard you might want to consider a solid deck to use as a frame; something like foam core or thin plywood/bass wood.
Thanks!
Just external for now. Maybe someday I'll work up the interior.
Just external for now. Maybe someday I'll work up the interior.
I think I calculated part of it with centimeters instead of millimeters and came up with about a 1 foot long ship, that 15mm minis would definitely never fit into.
Why 1:120th?
1:100th is so much easier as 1cm equal 1 meter.
Also 1:100th in the nominal scale for 15mm miniatures....
1:100 does make it easier. I'm still not coming up with a size that looks remotely big enough to fit 15mm figures in it, tho. Length-wise, maybe, but top to bottom looks too small.
It is? I thought a figure's scale was supposed to correspond to a height of 175 cm. That's what a figure manufacturer once told me. When I suggested 1:120 I was rounding up from 1:116.67 in order to get a round number.
Hans
Scale can vary considerably from manufacturer to manufacturer.
http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html
http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html
15mm was the size of figures that worked well visually with 1:100th sighting/identification models.
Also the nominal measurement is to the eyes on the figure and not to the top of the headgear.
Just because a OLD table by Bill of the TMP says one thing, doesn't mean my discussions with a couple of old school manufacturers of 15mm SF figures doesn't make my comments any less true. Especially now with the expansion of the numbers of manufacturers of 15mm. So yea, nothing can be so simple that a couple of anonymous on a forum can be the entire truth. Even if it comes from one of the people who worked very hard to get new figures produced so his old Martian metals, Citadel/Rafm and Hobby Products figures would not be alone on the table. (Not to mention my 15mm Cardboard Heroes).
Actually, it isn't.
see http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html
Official CT deckplans for 15mm (AHL, Snapshot, and the plans by Seeker and FASA) all use 1:118... that is, ~12.7mm represents 1500mm. 1500/12.7=118.11 and change. Actually, it's 0.5inches = 1.5m, as 12.7mm isn't quite exact.
Most 15mm minis are about 1:108, not 1:100.
Hum, all the examples you cite where scaled for 1/2 inch counters not 15mm figures.
The only Traveller specific products I recall produced for 15mm beyond the figures themselves where the 15mm blank ship forms produced under license by Games Workshop. Wait I forgot another 15mm Traveller product, the 15mm Cardboard Heroes produced by Steve Jackson Games.
Also if y'all read my post I did originally state that 1/100th was the Nominal scale, meaning that it is what stated, but the true scale is truly what ever looks right on the table next 15mm figures.
Now if y'all are looking for 15mm figures for the 1/2 scale deckplans, the original Rafm/Citadel figures as well as Ground Zero Games Traveller inspired 15mm miniatures line come on nice 1/2 inch integral bases. Other companies figures are more variable some fit nicely on 1/2 inch washers for bases quite a few have problems fitting on a 20mm base (or around here 3/4s of an inch i.e. a penny)
A last word on 1/100th it's an easy scale to model with, it is a direct reduction so no scale calculations beyond a centimeter rule. 3/8th of an inch is approximately 1 meter, 5/8ths of an inch is nearly exactly 15. 1/8th of an inch is a scale foot, or at least close enough not to matter too much. With the last three it easy to acquire styrene speciality stock from a number of sources, Evergreen Plastics and Plastruc both come to mind.
Yep.
The plans by Seeker and Fasa are explicitly labeled as 15mm minis.
That sucks for figuring this out...
While they quibble about minutiae Read this again:
A last word on 1/100th it's an easy scale to model with, it is a direct reduction so no scale calculations beyond a centimeter rule. 3/8th of an inch is approximately 1 meter, 5/8ths of an inch is nearly exactly 15. 1/8th of an inch is a scale foot, or at least close enough not to matter too much. With the last three it easy to acquire styrene speciality stock from a number of sources, Evergreen Plastics and Plastruc both come to mind.
Then ponder 1/100th.
In this case I am talking as another modeler who works with 15mm figures and both vehicles and space dungeons (i.e. interiour terrain). Approximations save your mind in this situation. Another set of tricks is drawing all this stuff out in full size in scale. I tend to use 5 square to the the inch graph paper, Though 8 square to the inch works as well. But anyways I use that drawn plan as my master for building the model. I used to pin it directly to a model board, now I am not so strict.
Oh and yeah the scout boat comes out at around a foot long...
Fine, Great, I didn't remember that, You Win! Happy?
Now I am going to try and help a fellow fan build a model if you don't mind....
That's what I've come up with when I draw it out. But then I look at 15mm figs and there's no way one could get through the airlock in the back of the ship at that scale. Crawling, maybe... Unless the dimensions listed in Traders and Gunboats is wrong.
