So, here's a 64 cent question. Just how much does it cost for a starship missile? And for that matter, to replace any kind of ammunition?
Missiles and other ammunition
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Unfortunately, T5 doesn't track ammo or missiles despite the fact that there are a couple of pages depicting various types of ammunition storage for firearms and there are different sizes for missiles. But then I also dislike 1-minute combat rounds which are the default for T5.
So here are the changes I made to make it more like MT. Change the Combat round to 6 seconds, which means that Movement rates are multiplied by 10 to get how many 1.5m squares you can move in one round. Walk 1 = 10 squares or 15m, Run 2 = 20 squares or 30m. If you wish you can make an Athlete roll against Dex or End on 3D and if you succeed you can Sprint 3 = 30 Squares or 45m but you may not attempt any other action.
Next, I use TL to determine how many shots a weapon has and modify this by the type of weapon, so Combat/Battle/Machineguns weapons multiply the result by 5, Energy weapons use x10 for ammo. And the cost for more ammo is 1% of the cost of the weapon for Slug Throwers and 10% for energy weapons which can be recharged.
I made these suggestions when I was asked to playtest the Combat rules, but I believe they were discarded because Marc wanted a more abstract system.
So here are the changes I made to make it more like MT. Change the Combat round to 6 seconds, which means that Movement rates are multiplied by 10 to get how many 1.5m squares you can move in one round. Walk 1 = 10 squares or 15m, Run 2 = 20 squares or 30m. If you wish you can make an Athlete roll against Dex or End on 3D and if you succeed you can Sprint 3 = 30 Squares or 45m but you may not attempt any other action.
Next, I use TL to determine how many shots a weapon has and modify this by the type of weapon, so Combat/Battle/Machineguns weapons multiply the result by 5, Energy weapons use x10 for ammo. And the cost for more ammo is 1% of the cost of the weapon for Slug Throwers and 10% for energy weapons which can be recharged.
I made these suggestions when I was asked to playtest the Combat rules, but I believe they were discarded because Marc wanted a more abstract system.
Timerover51
SOC-14 5K
Well, a lot is going to depend on the Tech Level of the missile you are firing. The Tech Level 6 Sidewinder tail-chase infra-red homer ran about $10,000 a copy, I think that the latest all-aspect version runs around $100,000. Now, those are atmospheric missiles. For anti-ship space missiles, I would figure them at about 500 kilos apiece, and no 50, and then assume about a 1000 credit per kilo of mass. That would put them in the price range of a nautical anti-ship missile which would be a long-range self-homer.
As for ammunition in general, again that would depend on Tech Level. I have data for the cost of ammunition for the U.S. in World War One and earlier. World War 2 is pretty much the same, but today, a lot will depend on what type of ammunition it is. An Armor-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding-Sabot round using depleted Uranium for the penetrator is going to cost a lot more than a basic High-Explosive Plastic round or a straight High-Explosive round.
If you need prices on regular piston or rifle ammo, that you can find online for the civilian market at retail value. For that, a lot depends on the demand for the ammo. T5 covers a very wide range of weaponry.
Food for thought, thanks for the replies!
Timerover51
SOC-14 5K
With a military discount, I can buy high-quality reloaded ammunition for a .357 Magnum, 158 grain jacketed lead flat point for $18 for 50 rounds. That is off the shelf of the gunshop. I suspect that a bulk purchase would be lower, and I also suspect that they are paying about half of that to the producer.
If you're willing to go back to MegaTraveller, it was twenty thousand credits per standard high-explosive warhead equipped starship missile.
TNE had fifty thousand for planetary aerospace defense missiles, but since TNE moved to nuclear-pumped detonation missiles, the warheads were extra.
David Johansen
SOC-12
Great Value Standard Turret Missile-9 c4500. Like many Great Value products the Standard Turret Missile is a bit hit and miss.
You have asked the 64 million dollar question...
The simple answer is that there is no simple answer.
Book 2 pegged them at Cr5k a piece.
And there are a million different answers after that!
Try these two articles:
http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Missile_Rack
http://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Missile
Hope that helps!
Shalom,
M.
