General Don't call them a Dog?

[Condottiere]

 

[Timerover51]

I think that when I consider the Vargr, they know that someone modified them from the start on Lair. Unless Grandfather or one of his progeny terraformed Lair to be close to Terra, the lack of any similar creature on the planet is going to tell them that they were planted there by someone. As Dire Wolves were carnivores, with a tendency to scavenge as well, Lair would need fauna compatible with the digestive system of a Terran carnivore. Presumably, whatever one of the Ancients modified the initial Vargr avoided planting a similar or competitive carnivore on the planet. What would be the affect on the Vargr of knowing that they are a created intelligent species? Once they come into contact with Terran humans, they discover that their very distant ancestors came from Terra. How do they react to that? What would be the reaction of a Vargr on first seeing a German Shepherd in a guide dog harness, clearly the servant of a human being? I use German Shepherd as an example as being somewhat close to how Vargr are portrayed. As I just recently encountered a gentleman with a Saint Bernard assistance dog, that would be a possibility as well. For that matter, how would a Vargr react on first seeing a Great Dane, a Chihuahua, a Saint Bernard, or a Yorkshire Terrier? Would they view them as slaves or what?

 

[whulorigan]

I think that when I consider the Vargr, they know that someone modified them from the start on Lair. Unless Grandfather or one of his progeny terraformed Lair to be close to Terra, the lack of any similar creature on the planet is going to tell them that they were planted there by someone. As Dire Wolves were carnivores, with a tendency to scavenge as well, Lair would need fauna compatible with the digestive system of a Terran carnivore. Presumably, whatever one of the Ancients modified the initial Vargr avoided planting a similar or competitive carnivore on the planet. What would be the affect on the Vargr of knowing that they are a created intelligent species? Once they come into contact with Terran humans, they discover that their very distant ancestors came from Terra. How do they react to that? What would be the reaction of a Vargr on first seeing a German Shepherd in a guide dog harness, clearly the servant of a human being? I use German Shepherd as an example as being somewhat close to how Vargr are portrayed. As I just recently encountered a gentleman with a Saint Bernard assistance dog, that would be a possibility as well. For that matter, how would a Vargr react on first seeing a Great Dane, a Chihuahua, a Saint Bernard, or a Yorkshire Terrier? Would they view them as slaves or what?

It is reminiscent of a "Planet of the Apes" scenario.

 

[Jame]

I think that when I consider the Vargr, they know that someone modified them from the start on Lair. Unless Grandfather or one of his progeny terraformed Lair to be close to Terra, the lack of any similar creature on the planet is going to tell them that they were planted there by someone. As Dire Wolves were carnivores, with a tendency to scavenge as well, Lair would need fauna compatible with the digestive system of a Terran carnivore. Presumably, whatever one of the Ancients modified the initial Vargr avoided planting a similar or competitive carnivore on the planet. What would be the affect on the Vargr of knowing that they are a created intelligent species? Once they come into contact with Terran humans, they discover that their very distant ancestors came from Terra. How do they react to that? What would be the reaction of a Vargr on first seeing a German Shepherd in a guide dog harness, clearly the servant of a human being? I use German Shepherd as an example as being somewhat close to how Vargr are portrayed. As I just recently encountered a gentleman with a Saint Bernard assistance dog, that would be a possibility as well. For that matter, how would a Vargr react on first seeing a Great Dane, a Chihuahua, a Saint Bernard, or a Yorkshire Terrier? Would they view them as slaves or what?

I think I have my Vargr understand that Terran dogs are nonsapient creatures, that evolved differently from Vargr.

Humans can do this with apes, but a lot don't.

 

[Timerover51]

I also wonder if there are different breeds of Vargr as there are different breeds of dogs. A Great Dane Vargr, a Saint Bernard Vargr better able to handle cold, a Mastiff Vargr better at hand to hand fighting, or maybe a Newfoundland Vargr better adapted to wet and cold conditions.

 

[Condottiere]

Psionicist.

 

[Grav_Moped]

Psionicist.

Kaiju Containment Specialist. (Youtube)

 

[Grav_Moped]

I also wonder if there are different breeds of Vargr as there are different breeds of dogs. A Great Dane Vargr, a Saint Bernard Vargr better able to handle cold, a Mastiff Vargr better at hand to hand fighting, or maybe a Newfoundland Vargr better adapted to wet and cold conditions.

What if Vargr, but Border Collie or Australian Shepard?

"Captain, why are we all here in the forward wardroom? Did you call a crew meeting or something?"
"No, I thought you did."
....
"Alice! I told you to stop herding the crew!"
"Sorry, Captain," she apologized; her guilty expression betrayed by her cheerfully wagging tail.

 

[casquilho]

To be honest, I have always disliked the twist some folks use saying that Vargr were Dogs. So I never had Mastiff or Bloodhound or Poodle "Vargr". I get it is fun to play with AI images and make all kinds of furies. And of course folks will do what they wish on their tables. But I personally never liked it.

 

[Condottiere]

I find it infinitively, and beyond, hilarious.

 

[Grav_Moped]

But I personally never liked it.

I get that, and agree to a degree.

Where it works for me is seeing the spotted coat (dapple/merle) being associated with psionics Akumgeda?, and abinism/blindness/deafness (result of double-merle genes) associated with strong psionics (Roth Thokken).

Bring in the morphology of the Herding Group breeds that include merle coloration and there you go.