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Janitor_Prime
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That change came about with the monetization rules change in YT. One country in particular was gaming the system on short form video and farming google for cash.
Spinward Flow
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The way I think about this is more in terms of ... Star Trek ... or Dune.
And currently, the path we are on in trending more on the trajectory towards ... DUNE.
As far as warnings from SciFi, I honestly think that The Orville (of all things) handled it best.
There has long been a "chicken vs egg" question regarding the cause & effect of replicator (type) technologies, like we see in Star Trek.
- Does the replicator (elimination of scarcity) produce the utopian society?
- Does the utopian society produce the replicator?
The Orville makes the case that "replicator tech levels" are a BYPRODUCT of a society that has reached utopia. You have to have the utopia FIRST before the culture can responsibly handle the transition into a post-scarcity world view. If the culture hasn't "developed enough" to handle the transition ... the results could potentially be extinction level for civilization.
Point being, you don't just need "the tools" of technology ... you need to have the WISDOM to use those "tools" of technology RESPONSIBLY.
And in the Real World™ ... that wisdom is sure looking like the rarest of resources out of all of them, while greed (is good?) and rampant one-upmanship (dressed up as "competition") rules the day.
Like the saying goes ... common sense sure is in short supply these days ...
kilemall
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The way I think about this is more in terms of ... Star Trek ... or Dune.
And currently, the path we are on in trending more on the trajectory towards ... DUNE.
As far as warnings from SciFi, I honestly think that The Orville (of all things) handled it best.
There has long been a "chicken vs egg" question regarding the cause & effect of replicator (type) technologies, like we see in Star Trek.
The answer from The Orville is not the usual one ... and not just because of the Prime Directive style angle on the argument (and context in which it is made in the S3E10 episode, Future Unknown in which the scene happens).
- Does the replicator (elimination of scarcity) produce the utopian society?
- Does the utopian society produce the replicator?
The Orville makes the case that "replicator tech levels" are a BYPRODUCT of a society that has reached utopia. You have to have the utopia FIRST before the culture can responsibly handle the transition into a post-scarcity world view. If the culture hasn't "developed enough" to handle the transition ... the results could potentially be extinction level for civilization.
Point being, you don't just need "the tools" of technology ... you need to have the WISDOM to use those "tools" of technology RESPONSIBLY.
And in the Real World™ ... that wisdom is sure looking like the rarest of resources out of all of them, while greed (is good?) and rampant one-upmanship (dressed up as "competition") rules the day.
Like the saying goes ... common sense sure is in short supply these days ...
Strikes me that the ‘wish machine’ from Forbidden Planet, just think it and it comes into being, was probably intended as a perfect reality printer. But it required self control and discipline to use without harm.
they already are. someone created an AI only social network to see what would happen. See https://www.moltbook.com/You could allow the bots to argue with each other.
Except, that still would use up enormous computing resources, with consequences for the power grid and water availability.
and a friend of mine created a chatbot to automatically respond to Redit posts. nothing is real anymore (says the old man yelling at the clouds)
Condottiere
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Speaking of dead:
In May 2026, Osbourne's wife and son announced plans for an artificial intelligence-powered avatar of him, which could appear in concerts, films and adverts.[299]
You could have avatars of the deceased arguing with each other.
In May 2026, Osbourne's wife and son announced plans for an artificial intelligence-powered avatar of him, which could appear in concerts, films and adverts.[299]
You could have avatars of the deceased arguing with each other.
Janitor_Prime
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There is a line about that in Starship Troopers, one of the teachers moral philosophy lectures on survival no less.
This thread has reached a point for me where reading it is Painfulness = Informative = Interesting.
It also reminds of that old saying, give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and feed him for life. But on the technical side of things instead of sustenance/survival.
This seems like the core of the discussion on the thread. It's easier to misuse technology than it is to survive misused technology.The way I think about this is more in terms of ... Star Trek ... or Dune.
And currently, the path we are on in trending more on the trajectory towards ... DUNE.
As far as warnings from SciFi, I honestly think that The Orville (of all things) handled it best.
There has long been a "chicken vs egg" question regarding the cause & effect of replicator (type) technologies, like we see in Star Trek.
The answer from The Orville is not the usual one ... and not just because of the Prime Directive style angle on the argument (and context in which it is made in the S3E10 episode, Future Unknown in which the scene happens).
- Does the replicator (elimination of scarcity) produce the utopian society?
- Does the utopian society produce the replicator?
The Orville makes the case that "replicator tech levels" are a BYPRODUCT of a society that has reached utopia. You have to have the utopia FIRST before the culture can responsibly handle the transition into a post-scarcity world view. If the culture hasn't "developed enough" to handle the transition ... the results could potentially be extinction level for civilization.
Point being, you don't just need "the tools" of technology ... you need to have the WISDOM to use those "tools" of technology RESPONSIBLY.
And in the Real World™ ... that wisdom is sure looking like the rarest of resources out of all of them, while greed (is good?) and rampant one-upmanship (dressed up as "competition") rules the day.
Like the saying goes ... common sense sure is in short supply these days ...
It also reminds of that old saying, give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and feed him for life. But on the technical side of things instead of sustenance/survival.
Spinward Flow
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Hammers are wonderful tools.
They can be used to build civilizations ... AND they can be used to crack skulls.
Guess which is "easier to do" (and can be done by any idiot with a hammer) ...
Did you get to the end of the Internet?
If you've read any of Julian May's Pliocene or Milieu books, there's a concept of algetics - that pain can be a teacher.
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Wasn't there a batch of aliens in (2300, I think?) that got smarter when you (or their leaders) hit them?
The Kafers get smarter when their equivalent of adrenaline surges. Thus if they perceive a threat, they get smart - hit them, point a gun at them, be an alien in their presence, it all works. And the more it happens, the higher their 'resting' intelligence, so their society encourages a high level of (non-lethal) interpersonal violence. Also, to learn something they need to be aroused, so leaders and teacher hit their charges before giving instruction or orders.
To Kafers, Humans are the bogeyman - they are 'smart barbarians' (because Humans are always smart, and this echoes their folk memory of violent barbarians over-running peaceful cities in their past). To Humans, Kafers are monsters who love violence (which they do, because they only feel fully alive and aware when triggered), who attack and kill for no reason.
Condottiere
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Is that the torcs?
I opened up one book by chance, and there was a scene where a penal worker mentioned it.
Just trying to imagine the elementary school teachers "beating the stupid" out of their students.
Pain tells you that you are still alive, and maybe you are doing something wrong.
That's known as "Positive Reinforcement". /s
It wasn't from the Torcs. Not directly.
The concept of algetics was brought up when they were trying to treat the Black Torc children in the Pliocene and somewhat when Jack was in the hospital with all of the cancers in the Milieu.
It's kinda the idea that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. That the pain can push you to a higher state.
From the Pliocene Companion:
The concept of algetics was brought up when they were trying to treat the Black Torc children in the Pliocene and somewhat when Jack was in the hospital with all of the cancers in the Milieu.
It's kinda the idea that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. That the pain can push you to a higher state.
From the Pliocene Companion:
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For fun and games, imagine being a captive of the Kafers. For no reason, every time they want you to do something they beat you before they even tell you what they want, let alone waiting to see if you disobey. Every time.