Adding FTL:2448 to your campaign
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I never viewed it as dystopian.
I have not followed it beyond the ancient ring binder book and the 2 volume set. Besides the two militant enemy races (the Zanqui and the other one) and the "evil Brazilians" leaving Earth how did you see it as dystopian?
On the other hand Fringeworthy, that is the shiz-niz.
On the other hand Fringeworthy, that is the shiz-niz.
Working on slowly. I have Astro3, but the FTL:2448 pdf is imaged non-OCR. I do not have image PDF to OCR software and the free stuff I found on the web does not let you dump a whole pdf for free, so I am doing it one scan at a time. If I ever finish, I will post it on the Tri-Tac forum. They will like that.
If anyone can point me to a free OCR that can handle 466 pages (34Mb) of PDF, that would be awesome.
More focused on doing an Eclipse Phase to MgT/T5 conversion right now for those who want to be pretty, pretty butterflies. Wafers showed the way. Thanks T5!
Enoki
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Hey, Nathan, did you ever enter the FTL 2448 Star Charts into Astrosynthesis?
I'm also curious about the dystopian comment. It's not Star Trek, butT it's hardly dystopian. It's pretty much straight space opera.
To me, Star Trek is dystopian
I'll agree with that last. Star Trek (particularly STNG) is almost Progressive Communists in Space.
No need for money. Everyone seems to know that you have to contribute freely as much as you can and you get what you need (having a matter converter helps a lot there).
Star Fleet is only looking out for all those "lessor" races and planets and such. Can't hand them technology... Might be dangerous. Dangerous is bad. Besides, Star Fleet has only their best interests in mind... Just like Lenin and Mao did...
o:So are the Capitalist's...eg., Ferengi... So are "real" men (Klingons)... And, of course, those conniving but not quite sure why otherwise Romulans... Gotta blast all of those evil aliens that might want to stop our benevolent Communist interventions in everybody's private business...
"Saving the universe one red shirt at a time!" might be their motto. Red being particularly appropriate...
Timerover51
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I'll agree with that last. Star Trek (particularly STNG) is almost Progressive Communists in Space.
No need for money. Everyone seems to know that you have to contribute freely as much as you can and you get what you need (having a matter converter helps a lot there).
Star Fleet is only looking out for all those "lessor" races and planets and such. Can't hand them technology... Might be dangerous. Dangerous is bad. Besides, Star Fleet has only their best interests in mind... Just like Lenin and Mao did...
So are the Capitalist's...eg., Ferengi... So are "real" men (Klingons)... And, of course, those conniving but not quite sure why otherwise Romulans... Gotta blast all of those evil aliens that might want to stop our benevolent Communist interventions in everybody's private business...
"Saving the universe one red shirt at a time!" might be their motto. Red being particularly appropriate...
Is this thread an exception to the policy with respect to political discussion, or has the policy been changed?
kilemall
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Hmm, I would classify Star Trek as more Dilithium Despotism then anything else.
Have a supply of Dilithium, you can power all those transporters and replicators. Not on the Dilithium feed and whatever rules govern items to create and use, you are likely on some intentionally off-grid colony or outlaw.
Or a Dilithium miner yourself, doesn't look like you get at least the perks of a boomtown.
It's also Dilithium Imperialism as a lot of the fights center around new mining resources.
Heh, just as far from us as we are from our 19th century counterparts.
If you were to explain about how few people do agriculture and the accelerating post-industrial reduction in factory work, the ubiquitous nature of our communication and computers and electricity, and the subsequent laws and taxes resulting to them, they would boggle at 'what are you all doing now' and the limits we routinely accept.
So I expect a lot of those people are doing things we would find frivolous or extraneous, but which makes sense in a 'no privation' enviornment.
I'm guessing it's a lot like that game, Freemarket- a Facebook like economy.
https://rpggeek.com/rpg/4078/freemarket
http://technoccult.net/archives/2010/08/04/freemarket-interview/
Have a supply of Dilithium, you can power all those transporters and replicators. Not on the Dilithium feed and whatever rules govern items to create and use, you are likely on some intentionally off-grid colony or outlaw.
Or a Dilithium miner yourself, doesn't look like you get at least the perks of a boomtown.
It's also Dilithium Imperialism as a lot of the fights center around new mining resources.
Heh, just as far from us as we are from our 19th century counterparts.
If you were to explain about how few people do agriculture and the accelerating post-industrial reduction in factory work, the ubiquitous nature of our communication and computers and electricity, and the subsequent laws and taxes resulting to them, they would boggle at 'what are you all doing now' and the limits we routinely accept.
So I expect a lot of those people are doing things we would find frivolous or extraneous, but which makes sense in a 'no privation' enviornment.
I'm guessing it's a lot like that game, Freemarket- a Facebook like economy.
https://rpggeek.com/rpg/4078/freemarket
http://technoccult.net/archives/2010/08/04/freemarket-interview/
No, policy hasn't changed. Politics is defined for board purposes as "histocial present" - real world post 1960.
The poli-sci labels are not part of that prohibition. Never have been.
A couple posters have pushed the line, but no one's crossed it yet.
The youtube series Film Theory posits that The Federation is facist. I disagree with word fascist used. Totalitarian is more fitting, but something is rotten at Wolf 359
Film Theory: Why The Star Trek Federation is Fascist
This is the same series that argues Skywalker should not destroy the Death Star due the economic burden it presents to the Empire, causing the Empire to collapse due to maintenance costs. :coffeesip:
Film Theory: Why The Star Trek Federation is Fascist
This is the same series that argues Skywalker should not destroy the Death Star due the economic burden it presents to the Empire, causing the Empire to collapse due to maintenance costs. :coffeesip:
They simply redefine any "Authoritarian" as "Fascist"... That said, Fascist was a corporatist-socialist system in historical use...
Historical fascists were corporatist, socialist, nationalist, and xenophobic.
The federation isn't exactly corporatist, it's heavily socialist, somewhat nationalist, and xenophillic (primarily in the friendly sense, but Spock, Kirk, Jadzia, B'ellana Torres-Paris, Naomi Wildman, and Savvik all firmly establish that the sexual sense is tolerated).
Historical fascists were corporatist, socialist, nationalist, and xenophobic.
The federation isn't exactly corporatist, it's heavily socialist, somewhat nationalist, and xenophillic (primarily in the friendly sense, but Spock, Kirk, Jadzia, B'ellana Torres-Paris, Naomi Wildman, and Savvik all firmly establish that the sexual sense is tolerated).
Timerover51
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It might help for the forum to remember that the classic Fascist state was Mussolini's Italy, not Germany, as Mussolini coined the term, if I remember correctly. Also, Italy was not xenophobic. Prior to 1939, Italy was heavily involved in supporting Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalist Government against the Japanese, as was also Germany. For that matter, the Soviets were also backing Chiang against the Japanese.
http://www.tritacgames.com/FTL.htm
It looks petty cool.
Also, the 'ponies' from Murderhoof will replace K'Kree in the next Traveller thing I run.
Maybe.
Cloisters reminds me of
Spoiler:
Could be a fun set up on an isolated world in Traveller.
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Mapping can be quite time consuming. A number of years ago, I started entering the Hipparcos data for Home Hex +0 into ChView. It might be easier to use one of EDG's files and replace the star names with the alien homeworld names. They both use galactic co-ordinates. Using Hipparcos and/or Gliese 3 data shouldn't matter since there's no 7.7 limit.
That would be too cool
Have you posted anything yet?Maybe I missed an episode or two. Could you refresh my memory?
I'm not sure how well that would work in the real world. Competition seems to be innate among hu-mons.
It seems as if these future people have become something other than truly human (functionally immortal, telepathic, cybernetic infovores). So maybe the old human drives have become significantly modified?
They're Fascists!
No, they're Communists!
Whatever they are, they sure make me appreciate the Imperium
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