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Old December 12th, 2020, 02:18 PM
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Lightbulb TL-1 Security Robots

Bronze Age Robots? well, I came across these mechanical wonders in James Rollins book 'The Last Odyssey', set in his Sigma Force series.

Articulated Bronze Chassis using Clockwork technology powered by a refined/improved version of Greek Fire.

although it doesn't have a cpu, it somehow interacts with it's environment through the use of Bronze Age technological versions of echolocation, motion and sound sensors, and maybe heat sensors of some kind, so that the Security Robots don't attack each other when more than one has been activated in close proximity to each other. since this was the one part of the 'Guardian Statues' the author didn't elaborate on, I had to go by how the Robots were performing in the story.

they do have their weaknesses, but seem to hold up well against year 2015-2020 weapons if there are more than one to contend with.
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Do they require magic?
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Maybe really, really talented bronzesmiths?
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Steanpunk, since the Greeks were aware of gears and heated water.
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Steanpunk, since the Greeks were aware of gears and heated water.
You mean a Charles Babbage Difference Engine?
You can make a mechanical calculator with a set of gears, I don't know what scale you'd build on to give a mechanical computer human level decision making intelligence, but it is hard to imagine that it would be anything smaller than the Great pyramids of Egypt.
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Sigma Force is a secret unit of Soldier-Scientists under DARPA.

although some of what Rollins writes in his stories might look like magic, he mixes plausible fiction with what is currently known of the sciences.

Bronze identified a whole age in human history, and is so useful, we still use it today.

Clockwork technology has been around for about 2200 years, and maybe longer.

just looked up Greek fire, and it seems to have been invented around the AD 600's. so the lost civilization would have invented it, and then it was lost to the ages until discovered again by the Greeks.

while reading about these Bronze Age Robots in action, i thought of some group of adventurers landing on a TL-1 Planet and accidentally activating a few, or even enough to make them beat a hasty retreat off of the planet.

or hear rumors of a low tech planet that no one has returned from, but somehow there are rumors of fiery demons protecting the planet.
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Clockwork technology has been around for about 2200 years, and maybe longer.
Definitely longer, since the machining on the surviving fragments of the roughly 2200 year old Antikythera Mechanism requires significant skills in both the alloying and the machining... but it can all be done with late bronze age tools. It can be done easier with iron tools.

There's a whole series of videos showing the process of making a copy. It's not something just newly invented. So, there was mechanical computing in the late bronze age (which is also when iron tools were starting to become useful).

Even more interesting is how a bronze blade and sand can cut stone or softer bronze mixtures very precisely.
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I still do not see how you build a bronze age computer 'brain' or how 'greek fire' can power it for more than a few minutes...
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I still do not see how you build a bronze age computer 'brain' or how 'greek fire' can power it for more than a few minutes...
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