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From a footnote on page 134:

"The robot plot was bound to fail; its conspirators did not know that their robot brains cannot survive jump, even protected by a ship’s jump field."

Uh, what now? I've never read anything in Traveller that suggests robots cannot survive jump. Anyone know anything more about this? It is just these particular robots or any robot?
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THAT is sure a game changer.
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THAT is sure a game changer.
Some of us have LONG held that something requires the big processors...

IMTU, it's a requirement for vacuum tubes... I'd assume, however, that by TL16, something serviceable has come about.
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If this is the Dathsuts chapter, those aren't Imperial robots.
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Some of us have LONG held that something requires the big processors...

IMTU, it's a requirement for vacuum tubes... I'd assume, however, that by TL16, something serviceable has come about.
Vacuum tubes with fiber-optic backup? The mind reels.
As does the magnetic tape storage...

It could have been something specific to those particular Von Neumann machines' method of being self-aware. But it might also explain why starships need sophont crews rather than being automated. On the other hand, it doesn't explain Virus-controlled ships.
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So the Robot that we purchased to help clean rooms doesn't function after the first jump?

The Robotic Miners need to be shipped STL?

"All robots are SYSTEM BOUND and non-FTL transportable" is something that probably should have been mentioned in all of the rules on ROBOTS throughout the various versions (and is NOT very Classic Sci-Fi Trope friendly).
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If this is the Dathsuts chapter, those aren't Imperial robots.
It is indeed the Dathsuts chapter and the robots in question traverse the universe sublight - they may be Essaray constructs.

There is nothing to suggest that Imperial robot brains can not survive jump.

That said - if it is a new setting retcon that robot brains can not survive jump space then it does indeed have great consequence for the setting.
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Yes the STL self building robots. I don’t recall of the text provides enough detail about how these robots are different that imperial robots, but seems a huge curveball casually thrown. Is anyone able to ask Mr. Miller for clarification?
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personally, I think robots can do just fine in jump space, especially since I don't know of any rule in Traveller that reads otherwise. this does make me wonder if a robots brain is affected by viewing the illogic of jump space, like a persons mind is affected.

although I haven't read the book, and thus don't know the context, I would surmise that that footnote is misinformation, so that the plotters don't know what really happened to 'their' robots.
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AB101 survived jump travel just fine, so unless MWM is going to de-canonise all of that...
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