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OK, but I already assumed the configuration only allowed 80% of the bays to fire (otherwise, the base damage would have been 300, not 240).
Sorry, I missed that.


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Even so, you're right. A 75000 dton ships could sustain a barrage from this 6000 dton ship...
Which, I agree, is unacceptable...


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Sure, it's either this or just ighnore the new version and keep with the old (as I did with TNE). But I like MgT1E, despite all, and sooner or latter I guess I'll try MgT2E.
Take the plunge, MgT2 is simpler (only one design system) and better (no barrages).
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You mean apart from the meson bay armed ships of the IN detailed in MgT HG2e?

Meson bays on capital ships in the 3I are a thing under HG79/80, MT, GT, TNE, T4 and MgT HG2e.
Mongoose is crystal clear on this:
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These items are usually not found within the Third Imperium setting:
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The following items are uncommon but may occasionally be seen:

Antimatter Spinal Mount, Collectors, Meson Bay (possibly for larger ships, but I never got a definitive answer on that one).

A ship can only form a jump bubble if it has a hull of 100 or more tons.

Manoeuvre drives are limited to thrust 6 for ships of 100 or more tons.

Note some is from canon changes handed down from above (ie: meson bays)
Nothing of this is even hinted at in the rules, of course.
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I missed that post, not surprising since I was spending a lot more time by the lake this summer, and I'm slowly going through the threads that have spurted up in the meantime.

But this is one reason you have official errata, so that players don't have to find obscure postings, besides correcting grammar and spelling.

The phrase uncommon but may occasionally be seen, you can bet that they can be seen and are available for military designs.
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Mongoose is crystal clear on this:
Not Mongoose, AndrewW. And I am not clear on who exactly his powers that be are...

So MWM writes one thing for his T5 rules and then insists MgT does something different?

9g is the new maximum for TL15 ships in T5, with prototype drives they could go higher. And yet he (MWM?) insists that Andrew limits 3I ship designs to 6g?

Meson bays have been a bay weapon system since the big ship paradigm was introduced, the sample ships include meson bays, and yet they are uncommon in the setting?

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Nothing of this is even hinted at in the rules, of course.
Not exactly crystal clear then is it
Here's hoping the final version of T5, the T5 BCS system and the MgT 3I book clear all this up
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Not Mongoose, AndrewW. And I am not clear on who exactly his powers that be are...
He is listed as author of HG, so I hope he has some insight into this...
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So MWM writes one thing for his T5 rules and then insists MgT does something different?

9g is the new maximum for TL15 ships in T5, with prototype drives they could go higher. And yet he (MWM?) insists that Andrew limits 3I ship designs to 6g?
Apparently someone is?
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Meson bays have been a bay weapon system since the big ship paradigm was introduced, the sample ships include meson bays, and yet they are uncommon in the setting?
This is mentioned as a retcon...
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Here's hoping the final version of T5, the T5 BCS system and the MgT 3I book clear all this up
We can hope...
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Not exactly crystal clear then is it
I can only try to interpret the oracular pronouncements leaking out of Mongoose.

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