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Please pardon my lack of industry knowledge. Does whatever change that opened the door for CE affect the supplements written for that version of the core game?
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Please pardon my lack of industry knowledge. Does whatever change that opened the door for CE affect the supplements written for that version of the core game?
No recent change "allowed" it. It's more like "Necessitated it."

CE could have been done the week MGT 1E was released...

What happened, tho, is that the Traveller Logo License was ended. So, all those old sups can be rereleased just by pulling the logo off.

That said, the new JTAS license is particularly onerous, so CE was, per Jason's stated goals, a way to justify a logo license which meant "Traveller Compatible" without actually saying that.
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What supplements do you mean? Which core game?
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What supplements do you mean? Which core game?
It should be pretty evident he's talking about the TLL and the cause of the rise of CE, John...

So, yours, Omer's, etc.
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It should be pretty evident he's talking about the TLL and the cause of the rise of CE, John...

So, yours, Omer's, etc.
Sorry, it really wasn't obvious to me at all.

I will say that if you are correct about his meaning, I completely concur with your response.
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Sorry if I added to the confusion. I'm looking to write up some game structures for our sandbox that are similar to Supplement 12, Dynasty. If someone really wanted a fully Dynasty type game I'd point them there. For my effort I just want something simple that will likely be made freely available. Wasn't sure how "different" it had to be to be legal. I'm happy to avoid any hint of questionable legality.

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Sorry if I added to the confusion. I'm looking to write up some game structures for our sandbox that are similar to Supplement 12, Dynasty. If someone really wanted a fully Dynasty type game I'd point them there. For my effort I just want something simple that will likely be made freely available. Wasn't sure how "different" it had to be to be legal. I'm happy to avoid any hint of questionable legality.

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OK. This is sort of what I thought you might have been asking.

Only the supplements that were placed in the OGL are open for use and even then there are portions that did not get placed in the OGL. Anything else, such as Dynasty, is off limits for commercial use.

The only supplements in the OGL are portions of the Mongoose 1e rulebook, High Guard, Mercenary, and the second attempt of the 1e vehicle book.
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John, thanks! I'm looking to code stuff for the games we're running but that means putting the data up in public. Sounds like I need to come up with my own organizational conflict system.
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Yeah, that's really the best thing to do.

Sad, really. Before the Great Unpleasantness, I had been given permission to add some of the other supplements to the OGL. Dale McCoy had already added the vehicle book to the OGL and I had intended to add some of the other supplements after I finished with the GKG book I was writing at the time. My intention was to do Dynasty as one of those I added to the OGL.

I never got to it. By the time I was free to attempt it, things were already underway for playtesting and so forth of MgT2 (and the associated troubles we had later) and I went all in on converting the GKG library to MgT2 for what I thought would be an MgT2 version of Clement Sector (and that was not to be either thanks to TAS).
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This interests me as well, as I'm considering publishing a supplement for expanded universe and world creation. But despite reading and re-reading threads such as this one, as well as the OGL, I still find it confusing as to how far I can go, or can't. For instance, extended UWP ratings, the expanded UWP string, alternate government types, etc.

I'll continue my work and my research but it's so very disappointing that this situation has become so confusing and seemingly polarized.
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