Sylean Class BB - Page 3

mike wightman · #21 April 18th, 2017, 04:22 PM

At TL15 under HG 81 edition 100,000t is a BB.

I would use every trick in the book to make it the most capable 100.000t BB TL15 can achieve - it relies on the naval base supply network and very large jump tenders.

J6 engine for strategic mobility - but rely on drop tanks until you get to tactical.

Maximum agility, screens and armour.

bridge 2%
j drive 7%
m-d 17%
pp 10%
fuel 30%
AV 15%
mg T 7%

It adds up...

Condottiere · #22 April 18th, 2017, 04:31 PM

I'll bite.

What's the projected maximum jump?

mike wightman · #23 April 18th, 2017, 04:57 PM

Jump 6 with drop tanks dropped.

Enough fuel reserve for a further two jump 1s or one jump 2.

These things are not cruisers, they are battleships. They rely on naval bases and tenders for strategic mobility.

AnotherDilbert · #24 April 18th, 2017, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mike wightman

bridge 2%
j drive 7%
m-d 17%
pp 10%
fuel 30%
AV 15%
mg T 7%

If you intend to jump with the tanks the jump drive will be a lot bigger... Otherwise it will be a logistical nightmare to provide new tanks every jump.

mike wightman · #25 April 18th, 2017, 05:09 PM

That's why the Imperium has naval bases and tenders - to support battleships.

**Blue Ghost** · #26 April 18th, 2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mike wightman

If it was meant to be the mainstay of the Imperial Navy don't you think it would have got a write up in S:9?

If it wasn't, then don't you think it would not have been show in S8? I think I've said all I had to on the topic. YTU and all that.

AnotherDilbert · #27 April 18th, 2017, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mike wightman

That's why the Imperium has naval bases and tenders - to support battleships.

If it needs massive tenders to move, why not just use battle riders?

**aramis** · #28 April 18th, 2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Ghost

If it wasn't, then don't you think it would not have been show in S8? I think I've said all I had to on the topic. YTU and all that.

There's 10 years setting difference between S08/S09 and TD9.
Supp 8 is most recent date 1107; TD issue 9 is 144-1116. The Sylea may be constructed post 1107.

Garnfellow · #29 April 18th, 2017, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mike wightman

If it was meant to be the mainstay of the Imperial Navy don't you think it would have got a write up in S:9?

I don't know . . . S:9 seems to be very Spinward Marches focused. I think it's representative only of that sector, and even then I don't think it's intended to be a comprehensive catalog of designs within the Marches. The Domain of Ilelish might have very different assets.

I could easily see two, maybe three dozen different capital ships designs active across the entire Imperium. That would include first, second, and third rate designs, the oldest of which stretch back to the Rim War.

Garnfellow · #30 April 18th, 2017, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mike wightman

At TL15 under HG 81 edition 100,000t is a BB.

I would use every trick in the book to make it the most capable 100.000t BB TL15 can achieve - it relies on the naval base supply network and very large jump tenders.

I am intrigued . . . there are a couple of 100kt battleship classes described in Keith Brothers materials: the Inkaalur (Far Traveller 2) and Uzhsu (High Passage 5). I figured they were too small to even be considered light battleships.

When you say "these things are not cruisers, they are battleships," you mean they possess spinal weapons and enough defences to stand in the line of battle?

So is your proposed 100kt battleship viable in the OTU because the S9 design are so inefficient or because you are sacrificing on-board fuel, ammo, and other reserve systems in lieu of using a network of tenders and bases?