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Old August 26th, 2012, 04:19 AM
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Default Bk 2 (2E) costs to operate by tonnage and Jump

CT 2E values

Op Cost Per Ton Per Jump
________ Tonnage ________ J1 ________ J2 ________ J3 ________ J4 ________ J5 ________ J6
_________ 100.00 ___ 1,745.2 ____ 4634.5 _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
_________ 200.00 _____ 778.2 ____ 1686.5 ____ 4901.7 _______ --- _______ --- __________
_________ 400.00 _____ 713.5 ____ 1332.6 ____ 2270.5 ____ 5655.7 ___ 45961.3 __________
_________ 600.00 _____ 656.0 ____ 1187.7 ____ 2232.1 ____ 4475.1 ___ 14593.8 __________
_________ 800.00 _____ 641.5 ______ 1142 ____ 2071.8 ____ 4056.9 ___ 10829.7 __________
_______ 1,000.00 _____ 672.0 ____ 1178.2 ____ 2099.4 ____ 4041.2 ____ 9751.4 ___ 37189.3
_______ 2,000.00 _____ 623.3 ____ 1109.4 ____ 1548.9 ______ 2190 ____ 3351.9 ____ 5814.1
_______ 3,000.00 _____ 643.9 _____ 950.8 ____ 1296.9 ____ 1757.6 _______ --- __________
_______ 4,000.00 _____ 640.2 _____ 858.7 ____ 1142.4 _______ --- _______ --- __________
_______ 5,000.00 _____ 595.3 _______ 794 _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
________ Average ____ 770.90 __ 1,487.50 __ 2,195.50 __ 3,696.10 _ 16,897.60 _ 21,501.70
_________ Median ____ 650.00 __ 1,160.10 __ 2,085.60 __ 4,049.10 _ 10,829.70 _ 21,501.70
____________ Max __ 1,745.20 __ 4,634.50 __ 4,901.70 __ 5,655.70 _ 45,961.30 _ 37,189.30
____________ Min ____ 595.30 ____ 794.20 __ 1,142.40 __ 1,757.60 __ 3,351.90 __ 5,814.10
______ Std. Dev. ____ 346.10 __ 1,134.30 __ 1,176.50 __ 1,464.40 _ 16,743.50 _ 22,185.60
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
__________ Basal ____ 996.10 __ 2,294.40 __ 3,262.10 __ 4,686.40 _ 27,573.20 _ 43,687.30
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
_____ Reasonable __ 1,000.00 __ 2,300.00 __ 3,300.00 __ 4,700.00 _ 27,600.00 _ 43,700.00
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
___________ Avg2 ____ 662.66 __ 1,137.79 __ 1,808.86 __ 3,696.08 __ 9,631.70 __ 5,814.10
________ Median2 ____ 643.90 __ 1,142.00 __ 2,071.80 __ 4,049.05 _ 10,290.55 __ 5,814.10
________ StdDev2 _____ 54.15 ____ 268.07 ____ 468.98 __ 1,464.39 __ 4,672.90 ______ 0.00
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
_________ basal2 ____ 698.05 __ 1,330.34 __ 2,080.36 __ 4,686.39 _ 12,697.69 __ 5,814.10
___________ +50% __ 1,047.07 __ 1,995.51 __ 3,120.54 __ 7,029.58 _ 19,046.54 __ 8,721.15
____ Reasonable2 ____ 700.00 __ 1,350.00 __ 2,100.00 __ 4,700.00 _ 12,700.00 __ 5,850.00
____ reasonable3 __ 1,050.00 __ 2,000.00 __ 3,150.00 __ 7,050.00 _ 19,050.00 __ 8,750.00

* indicates performance set below maximum possible for drive in order to reduce fuel use

All are minimum crew no weapons, no hardpoints, no space reserved for turrets.

Looking at these numbers, I'll note that a one odd combination is possible that aren't figured, but only by double occupancy crewing...
Namely: 800Td J6 (299817.3 per ton, 4 tons cargo)

All of these are based upon standard financing. Everything rounded to nearest Cr0.1

Normative cost is the lowest of Average+1StDev, Median+1StdDev, or Minimum+2StdDev.

The table looks rather different for 1E due to the (1) lack of matching PP/JD requirement and (2) lack of Comp≥Jn requirement.


Edit: caught an error in the SS, fixed, reran. split
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Drives J/M/P and TL
Tonnage _______J1 ______J2 _____J3 ______J4 ______J5 ______J6
__200 _______AAA*9 ___AAA 9 __--- - ___--- - ___--- - ___--- -
__400 _______AAA 9 ___BAB 9 __CAC 9 ___DAD 9 ___--- - ___--- -
__600 _______CCC 9 ___FCF A __JCJ B ___MCM C ___QCQ D ___--- -
__800 _______DDD 9 ___HDH A __MDM C ___RDR E ___VDV F ___--- -
_1000 _______EEE A ___KEK B __QEQ D ___VEV F ___WEW F ___YEY F
_2000 _______JJJ B ___VJV F __XJX F ___YJY F ___ZJZ*F ___ZJZ F
_3000 _______QQQ D ___XQX F __ZQZ*F ___ZQZ F ___--- - ___--- -
_4000 _______VVV F ___YVY F __ZVZ F ___--- - ___--- - ___--- -
_5000 _______WWW F ___ZWZ F __--- - ___--- - ___--- - ___--- -

Drives table to match the above.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 06:11 AM
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CT1E Table
________ Tonnage ________ J1 ________ J2 ________ J3 ________ J4 ________ J5 ________ J6
__________ 100.0 ___ 1,745.2 ___ 4,395.5 __ 98,277.0 _______ --- _______ --- __________
__________ 200.0 _____ 778.2 ___ 1,300.5 ___ 2,236.2 ___ 4,256.3 __ 14,054.0 __________
__________ 400.0 _____ 713.5 ___ 1,108.1 ___ 1,798.7 ___ 2,527.8 ___ 5,105.4 __ 16,791.3
__________ 600.0 _____ 656.0 ___ 1,047.3 ___ 1,624.6 ___ 2,651.0 ___ 4,740.0 __ 12,519.8
__________ 800.0 _____ 641.5 ___ 1,000.0 ___ 1,573.1 ___ 2,485.8 ___ 4,584.5 ___ 9,259.3
________ 1,000.0 _____ 672.0 ___ 1,057.8 ___ 1,632.7 ___ 2,633.2 ___ 4,103.8 ___ 7,437.3
________ 2,000.0 _____ 623.3 _____ 998.5 ___ 1,333.8 ___ 1,798.9 ___ 2,608.4 ___ 4,027.7
________ 3,000.0 _____ 643.9 _____ 903.7 ___ 1,195.3 ___ 1,580.9 _______ --- __________
________ 4,000.0 _____ 640.2 _____ 841.3 ___ 1,097.0 _______ --- _______ --- __________
________ 5,000.0 _____ 595.3 _____ 780.8 _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
________ Average _____ 770.9 ___ 1,343.4 __ 12,307.6 ___ 2,562.0 ___ 5,866.0 __ 10,007.1
_________ Median _____ 650.0 ___ 1,023.7 ___ 1,624.6 ___ 2,527.8 ___ 4,662.3 ___ 9,259.3
____________ Max ___ 1,745.2 ___ 4,395.5 __ 98,277.0 ___ 4,256.3 __ 14,054.0 __ 16,791.3
____________ Min _____ 595.3 _____ 780.8 ___ 1,097.0 ___ 1,580.9 ___ 2,608.4 ___ 4,027.7
______ Std. Dev. _____ 346.1 ___ 1,082.2 __ 32,240.3 _____ 859.8 ___ 4,104.9 ___ 4,879.9
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
__________ Basal _____ 996.1 ___ 2,105.9 __ 33,864.9 ___ 3,300.5 ___ 8,767.2 __ 13,787.5
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
_____ Reasonable ___ 1,000.0 ___ 2,150.0 __ 33,900.0 ___ 3,350.0 ___ 8,800.0 __ 13,800.0
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
___________ Avg2 _____ 662.7 ___ 1,004.2 ___ 1,465.0 ___ 2,279.6 ___ 4,009.2 ___ 4,027.7
________ Median2 _____ 643.9 ___ 1,000.0 ___ 1,573.1 ___ 2,506.8 ___ 4,344.2 ___ 4,027.7
________ StdDev2 ______ 54.1 _____ 154.1 _____ 258.8 _____ 466.1 _____ 972.3 _______ 0.0
____________ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- _______ --- __________
_________ basal2 _____ 698.0 ___ 1,089.0 ___ 1,614.7 ___ 2,513.1 ___ 4,553.0 ___ 4,027.7
___________ +50% ___ 1,047.0 ___ 1,633.5 ___ 2,422.1 ___ 3,769.7 ___ 6,829.5 ___ 6,041.5
____ Reasonable2 _____ 700.0 ___ 1,100.0 ___ 1,650.0 ___ 2,550.0 ___ 4,600.0 ___ 4,050.0
____ reasonable3 ___ 1,050.0 ___ 1,650.0 ___ 2,450.0 ___ 3,800.0 ___ 6,850.0 ___ 6,050.0


Note that J6 "reasonable" numbers are broken - I'll fix them monday.

"Reasonable" numbers are rounded to next Cr50
2 series throws out highest price.
3 is based upon reasonable 2+50% markup.
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Some initial commentary...

J1 and J2 are both going to exist for prices of Cr1000 or less per ton... The Imperial "price fix" at Cr1000 per ton per jump is in fact reasonable for J1 and J2 - for J1, because the Impies will pay that, everyone else gets stuck paying it. For J2, the big liners at TL 15 can do it, and it's a breakeven for the 1E 800 tonner.

The 1E "hiccup" at 1000Td is the extra crew required for the minimum.
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Bk2 costs per day for system ships (no J-Drive)
___ Td ___ 1G ____ 2G _____ 3G _____ 4G _____ 5G _____ 6G
__ 100 __ 59.4 __ 82.4 __ 160.7 __ 241.9 __ 770.2 ____ ---
__ 200 __ 40.3 __ 54.3 ___ 56.7 ___ 77.1 __ 104.1 __ 142.7
__ 400 __ 29.8 __ 38.9 ___ 49.2 ___ 63.2 ___ 63.3 ___ 78.4
__ 600 __ 27.4 __ 35.6 ___ 45.8 ___ 56.0 ___ 69.0 ___ 77.5
__ 800 __ 26.2 __ 34.8 ___ 43.4 ___ 53.7 ___ 64.2 ___ 71.8
_ 1000 __ 28.5 __ 36.6 ___ 45.8 ___ 55.2 ___ 58.0 ___ 61.8
_ 2000 __ 27.0 __ 35.2 ___ 37.1 ___ 38.2 ___ 39.3 ___ 39.7
_ 3000 __ 27.4 __ 30.9 ___ 32.1 ___ 32.3 ____ --- ____ ---
_ 4000 __ 27.2 __ 28.4 ___ 28.9 ____ --- ____ --- ____ ---
_ 5000 __ 26.0 __ 27.0 ____ --- ____ --- ____ --- ____ ---


Note that no down time is figured - if a trip turn around is typically 5 days (as with "normal" starship operations ...), a freight passage taking 2 days will likely be charged 7 days. Figure out what your downtime is.

Month is presumed to be the canonical 28 day month.

I've not adjusted this for a profit margin - I'd expect at least 50% markup, maybe even 100%. In systems with deep gravity wells to fly down, I'd expect routine operations to be at about 50%.
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Looking at these numbers, I'll note that a one odd combination is possible that aren't figured, but only by double occupancy crewing...
Namely: 800Td J6 (299817.3 per ton, 4 tons cargo)
That is a very cool ship concept.
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That is a very cool ship concept.
To be honest, my issue with Bk2 is that you just can't get fast small ships.
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