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Old July 9th, 2003, 11:03 AM
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FIRST DRAFT
Your Name in Zhodani

*UPDATE: Latest changes are marked with '*'

I need some testers to try out these draft rules. (Warning: it seems to work better with names than with login handles).

This is a set of name-mangling rules that maps names (or words) into Zhodani-sounding counterparts. As always, use with caution. Your results will help me refine the model.

Sincerely,

Riestants ("Call me Stan") Ejdakieqr

</font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Rules
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(0) Write down a name.
(1) Drop final vowels.
(2) Conflate repeated consonants.
(3) Apply vowel rules
(4) Apply basic consonant &amp; final consonant rules.
(5) Shorten runs of 4+ consonants &amp; edit where necessary.

Example:

(0) George Jefferson
(1) Georg Jefferson
(2) Georg Jeferson
(3) Garg Jafarsien
(4) Zhdadlzhd Nashtadlchieqr
(5) Zhdadl Nashtadlieqr

Example:

(1) Marc Miller
(2) Marc Miler
(3) Merc Molar
(4) Zedlm Zoklam
(5) Zedlem Zoklam


Vowels:

a -&gt; e
ae -&gt; i
au -&gt; ia
e -&gt; a
ea -&gt; e
eo -&gt; a
i -&gt; o
ie -&gt; e
o -&gt; ie
u -&gt; o
ue -&gt; e
y -&gt; e or null
y final -&gt; q or null

=====================
Basic (non-final) Consonants:

b -&gt; st
br -&gt; dr
c -&gt; m
ch(r) -&gt; qr
d -&gt; zd
f -&gt; sht
fr -&gt; q
g -&gt; zhd
gl -&gt; jd
h -&gt; sh or null
j -&gt; n
k -&gt; f
l -&gt; kl
lt -&gt; ql
m -&gt; z
n -&gt; d
nd -&gt; y or v
p -&gt; tl
ph -&gt; l
q -&gt; fl
r -&gt; dl
rn -&gt; v
rt -&gt; cht
s -&gt; ch
sh -&gt; pl
sm -&gt; vl
st -&gt; k
t -&gt; br
te(r) -&gt; kr
th(l) -&gt; fr
th(r) -&gt; j
v -&gt; p
w -&gt; vr

==================
Final Consonants:

b -&gt; z
cy -&gt; nj
d -&gt; n -or- tl
l -&gt; l
ld -&gt; nsh
n -&gt; qr
(r)ns -&gt; stebr *
(i)on -&gt; atl *
r -&gt; m
rk -&gt; nt *
rd(s) -&gt; br
rt -&gt; nts
s -&gt; r
sh -&gt; kr
s(i)on -&gt; tlas *
st -&gt; kl
t -&gt; j
t(i)on -&gt; tlas *
th -&gt; f
v -&gt; dl
wn -&gt; k
y -&gt; q

(for all other final consonants, please use
the &quot;Basic Consonants&quot; table, and sorry for the
inconvenience)</pre>[/QUOTE]
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Old July 9th, 2003, 02:07 PM
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Pretty neat. Wendell Martin -&gt; Vradzdal Zedlbroqr which looks pretty authentic. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old July 9th, 2003, 02:13 PM
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Peter White
becomes..
Tlbradl Vrhobr?

COOL!

Didn't dare try my middle name.

--Edit--
okay now I did... zhdershtensl?

Tlbradl Zhdershensl Vrhobr?

Sounds like a Aslan horking up a bad hairball.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 04:13 PM
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Peter White could be:

Peter Whit
-&gt; Patar Whot
-&gt; Tlabram Vrobr

Hm, that final t should be something else. How
about, in the final consonants table:

t -&gt; j

That would make you "Tlabram Vroj". Better?


And Wendell Martin could be:

Wendel Martin
-&gt; Wandal Merton
-&gt; Vrayal Zedlbroqr

Although I'd pare down that "dlbr" group some...
it could be 'Zedloqr' or 'Zebroqr'.
Perhaps 'rt' ought to map to something in the
basic consonants table. How about

rt -&gt; cht

That would make you "Vrayal Zechtoqr".
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Old July 9th, 2003, 05:03 PM
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I wish my name was Zedlem Zoklam.

Unfortunately, it's Tledlma Odpadledlobrq.
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So I whould be:
0) Peter Vernon
1) (no effect)
2) (no effect)
3) Patar Varnien
4) Tlabram Padldieqr
5) (no effect)

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Mine came out to be Adlomf Iezstod. How do I pronounce it?? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Add - Lom, Eye - Stod]
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Vernon
Padldieqr, yep.

If I were you, I'd drop that second d.
Padlieqr sounds better.

Or, perhaps I need to map 'rn' to something.
How about rn -&gt; v.

Pavieqr. Ahh, nice.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pierce_Inverarity:
I wish my name was Zedlem Zoklam.

Unfortunately, it's Tledlma Odpadledlobrq.
Pierce Inverarity * let's dump that final y.
Pierc Inverarit
Perc Onvarerot
Tledlm Odpadledloj

Let's dump the 'm' from Tledlm, and the
'p' from Odpadledloj.

Tledl Odadledloj. A little better. Still a mouthful of syllables. Consider it a diplomatic challenge. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Quote:
Originally posted by Garf:


&lt;snip&gt;... zhdershtensl?
Gesundheit

"And so began the First Frontier War, as the Zhodani Ambassador introduced himself and the Imperial Ambassador, of Germanic descent, replied with a common phrase which unfortunately was phonetically identical to a viscious slur in the Zhodani Ambassador's native language."

Sorry, just couldn't resist [img]smile.gif[/img]

Anyway, more data for the test, Daniel James Burns enters the alien artifact and emerges...

"Hi there, I'm Zdedel Nezar Stodldr, no need to introduce yourself, I've already scanned your mind."

Pronunciation (imo): Zhed-el Ne-zar Stole-dur
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