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Can't help but think the un-men would make an excellent tie in with the Essaray...

Ooooo... nasty!

A long range, long term scouting operation perhaps?
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One extremely small nit because I am the board's Official Human Hemorrhoid...

Spoiler:
... the android "infestation" Bland scrubs is on Dathsuts/Vland and not Beauniture/Caes. Beauniture is where Bland awakes aboard a long range IISS scout cruiser and witnesses the results of the Empress Wave.

Having even a minor Essaray incursion in the Vland Sector might make raise that threat level past 29...
That's what happens when I am not working with the book in front of me.
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Thanks for the correction.
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Thanks for the correction.

Not a correction, more like a nudge.

I've been "chasing" the Empress Wave since the days of TNE so that chapter in AotI is firmly lodged in my brain.
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Another thing that stands out to me is the potential "scope" of their influence. If you look at the map (either in T5 or on TravellerMap at galaxy-scale), the Essaray are (as Mike pointed out) in the "Northeast". Yet the Galaxiad intro mentions that the Essaray were eventually found to be responsible for the "Barren Arm" in the "Southeast". Those two regional-notations span at least a full quadrant of the Galaxy when combined.

Compare that to the tiny little dot/circle that represents Charted Space.
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What intrigues me is the note about being a "Level-29 threat". IIRC, an Agent was activated by Imperial Standing Orders at about a Level-8 threat, and I think the highest level threat noted in AotI was about Level-14 (?).
I suggest that if one looks at the T5.09 fame chart, a rank of 29 is "Galaxy".
I will have to reread Agent to codify it better and see about scaling.

In a similar vein, in the Eclipse Phase game, the Firewall group also codifies threats actual and theoretical. Their scope goes up to galaxy.
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I will say that Marc is STILL collating his ideas on the Galaxiad, and getting feedback from his council...
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I suggest that if one looks at the T5.09 fame chart, a rank of 29 is "Galaxy".
That's an excellent observation. I hadn't put the Threat and Fame scales together in my mind.
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Another thing that stands out to me is the potential "scope" of their influence. If you look at the map (either in T5 or on TravellerMap at galaxy-scale), the Essaray are (as Mike pointed out) in the "Northeast". Yet the Galaxiad intro mentions that the Essaray were eventually found to be responsible for the "Barren Arm" in the "Southeast". Those two regional-notations span at least a full quadrant of the Galaxy when combined.

Compare that to the tiny little dot/circle that represents Charted Space.
Other than omniscience of the narrator nobody would know. Civilizations in charted space would never have any contact with anything that far away. It would take a year at J6 to cross charted space, decades to reach the margins of the area labeled "Barren Arm."

Coldsleep rotation lets crews live that long. Still, not much time to survey more than a smattering of systems. They wouldn't even know that the area is "barren" of intelligent life (other than to note a lack of radio-band communications noise expected).

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Other than omniscience of the narrator nobody would know. Civilizations in charted space would never have any contact with anything that far away. It would take a year at J6 to cross charted space, decades to reach the margins of the area labeled "Barren Arm."
The Wave of Craziness chapter shows that the Imperium will try.
  • The Scout mission was 8 years out on 20 year mission.
  • Being in year 434 they made it to Beauniture on J-4 or less. J-5 is not invented until later.
  • They are 800 parsecs out from the Imperial border in 8 years.

Which means an "exploration speed" about 100 parsecs a year. You could do it with about 25 jumps a year at J-4. 1 week to jump, 1 week to refuel/explore. If the rate of exploration is constant, at the 10 year mark you will have gone another 200 parsecs out, depending on the durations of side trips like Beauniture. For a total of 1000 parsecs out. Then turn around and spend the same rate exploring and going home.
1 week to jump, 1 week to refuel/explore 25 jumps a year x 4 parsecs per jump x 10 years = 1000 parsecs.

Second Survey takes place after J-5 is invented, so a new scouting expedition would go 25% further out.
1 week to jump, 1 week to refuel/explore 25 jumps a year x 5 parsecs per jump x 10 years = 1250 parsecs.

A J-6 is possible depending on the ship design system you use. If you accept the current Mongoose High Guard System with its options to reduce component volume, then yes. If you use a more standard system maybe not. I always get xBoats with J-6/0-G in my head.
1 week to jump, 1 week to refuel/explore 25 jumps a year x 6 parsecs per x 10 years = 1500 parsecs.
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I reread the chapter. The ship is capable of J5.

This does not change the calculations much other than it would take 20 jumps in a straight line of J-5 + a few more if you are zig-zagging As long as you can cross the average of 100 parsecs per year...
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