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IIRC CT assumed half of the tonnage was the stateroom itself, while the other half was corridor and common areas...
I don't think it was ever that specific.

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Checking through the deck plans in CT Traders and Gunboats et al most staterooms are between four and six squares in size. MgT deck plans appear to reflect this too.
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CT was more or less specific about how much stateroom tonnage was the room itself depending on where you looked.

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Staterooms require four tons at a cost of Cr500,000 per stateroom. Staterooms actually average about two tons, but the additional tonnage is used to provide corridors and access ways, as well as galley and recreation areas.
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So McPerth was entirely correct:
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I noticed under "Luxuries" (page 110 of Core Rules), tonnage includes air refreshers, passageways, mess halls, crew lounges and other living spaces, it is often cramped and uncomfortable. But other than "Steward" skill, doesn't explain how luxuries (100,00 credits per ton) improves the living spaces.
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... doesn't explain how luxuries (100,00 credits per ton) improves the living spaces.
It's entirely up to you. It can be a small wet bar, an olympic swimming-pool, or anything to keep crew and passengers happy.

Given that it can replace Stewards things like automated dining rooms, laundromats, and cleaning robots spring to mind.

Given that it alleviates cramped living quarters, just some open space, like a lounge or hydroponic garden might apply.


I see it as a catch-all to simply enlarge or improve living quarters aboard. The cost is similar to the regular stateroom (per ton).
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CT was more or less specific about how much stateroom tonnage was the room itself depending on where you looked.

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Staterooms require four tons at a cost of Cr500,000 per stateroom. Staterooms actually average about two tons, but the additional tonnage is used to provide corridors and access ways, as well as galley and recreation areas.
TY. I was sure about having read it but couln't find it....
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It's entirely up to you. It can be a small wet bar, an olympic swimming-pool, or anything to keep crew and passengers happy.

Given that it can replace Stewards things like automated dining rooms, laundromats, and cleaning robots spring to mind.

Given that it alleviates cramped living quarters, just some open space, like a lounge or hydroponic garden might apply.


I see it as a catch-all to simply enlarge or improve living quarters aboard. The cost is similar to the regular stateroom (per ton).
And don't forget recreational facilities (from tableboard or computer games to gym, gallery, etc, depedning on the total volumen devoted).

In a 100 dton ship, I'd assume the small wet bar, a small zone for games or other hobbies, maybe a billiard pool, but little else (and the olympic pool is out of question, of course )
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The ratio of private to public space could very well be a commercial, cultural and/or customer base decision.


Some travellers probably like eating/recreation/social activities, others would want larger personal quarters or even eat/stay in, be xenophobic and definitely stay in-room, or exult in stateroom space luxury.


Serve an anti-social part of space and it may need to be all stateroom, service social planets and the reverse sells better.



For alien species you may need to have nothing BUT stateroom for their unique atmospheric, gravitic and culinary needs.



There could also be nuanced fares and rooms- steerage 1 ton spaces with communal restrooms and vending/minimal prep for the other ton, 2-ton private/2-ton public as noted for generic, 6-ton with a 3/3 split for high+ passage only at Cr15000 and 8-ton suites at Cr20000 per (CT pricing for examples, translate as you will for MgT2E).
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You can get creative with available volume in regard to crew quartering and access ways.

If your crew and passengers are mostly Hobbits, you can lower the ceiling.
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