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I need some help with ship designing. How much tonnage should be allocated for common areas (kitchens, refreshers, exercise rooms, etc...) for a 100 ton ship?
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Assuming you're talking about MgT1e, none, as it is included in the stateroom space, but you can install more as luxuries (see luxuries entry in page 110 of the main book).

In High Guard there are more options, as brieffing rooms, libraries, etc
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I would say it's not so much a question of how many tons per 100 ton hull, but how many tons per person. How many people are giong to be aboard?


The "staterooms" are all that is absolutely necessary. Extra common areas are an optional extra to make the ship less cramped. MgT2 suggests 25% extra, i.e. 1 ton for each stateroom.

Note that the "staterooms" includes some common areas. When drawing deck plans you really only have to keep track of roughly how many tons are devoted to crew spaces total, you can draw as many or as few rooms as you desire.
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Assuming you're talking about MgT1e, none, as it is included in the stateroom space, but you can install more as luxuries (see luxuries entry in page 110 of the main book).

In High Guard there are more options, as brieffing rooms, libraries, etc
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The "staterooms" are all that is absolutely necessary. Extra common areas are an optional extra to make the ship less cramped. MgT2 suggests 25% extra, i.e. 1 ton for each stateroom.
Technically, a stateroom is all that's needed for TWO people.
You can (non-commercially) use double occupancy.
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When drawing deck plans I use six of the eight squares allocated to a stateroom for the room itself, which gives me two squares per stateroom to allocate to common areas.
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When drawing deck plans I use six of the eight squares allocated to a stateroom for the room itself, which gives me two squares per stateroom to allocate to common areas.
I tend to use 4 of the 8. I'll note that many of Bill Keith's designs, the deck height is 2.1m, not 3... so 4 Td is 56kl/4.725kl for 12 squares per SR. (2.9629629629629632 squares per Td. He seems to round up to 3).


I discovered this by trying to cram Bill's deckplans from S7 into the listed dimensions within Sketchup. The Type S pretty much ONLY works as drawn at 2-2.2 m deck-to-deck.
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You don't have to follow the floor tiles exactly; airlines have been optimizing seat space for years.
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You don't have to follow the floor tiles exactly
I found this line of thought easier with the TNE/T4 use of 2m grid than with the 1.5m grid standard in most other editions, if only because following the 2m grid leads to really wiiiiide hallways.
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When drawing deck plans I use six of the eight squares allocated to a stateroom for the room itself, which gives me two squares per stateroom to allocate to common areas.
IIRC CT assumed half of the tonnage was the stateroom itself, while the other half was corridor and common areas...
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