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I very much doubt he can explain how it gets enough food, water and oxygen, how it moves its own mass without breaking its own body apart etc. without a totally implausible handwave.
A quick google of the physical limit to land animal size throws up some pretty inescapable physics - energy requirements, heat management, etc.

Hmm, low grav/high atmo worlds might produce larger animals then our mix of grav and energy/heat exchange/structural issues.


Maybe in tandem with gigantic airsacs, so it's part blimp? Methane-based atmo, separates out the hydrogen for the sacs then 'burns' it on exhale for internal fuel?
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And high oxygen: one reason posited for megafauna of the past was a much higher percentage of oxygen.

See: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...evolved-thank/

See: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...imals-science/
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Matt and I were discussing some material I wrote for JTAS defining the "collopha": a 100,000 ton land animal, which is specifically supposed to be able to haul crashed spaceships to a downport, and its game stats.
Sounds nifty.

I have no idea how to make it work within existing game mechanics. I can think on it.

Sounds like it might be better to design it as a vehicle.
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A man can pull a railroad train car on level tracks
Stopping it, however, is a different problem.
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Stopping it, however, is a different problem.
not really; given enough distance, he can. Whether or not that's practical is a whole different kettle of fish.
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I very much doubt he can explain how it gets enough food, water and oxygen, how it moves its own mass without breaking its own body apart etc. without a totally implausible handwave.
A quick google of the physical limit to land animal size throws up some pretty inescapable physics - energy requirements, heat management, etc.
Skip the handwave, I want a herd of those things. Organically-grown bonded superdense exoskeleton or bones, no idea what the muscles are made of but there's GOT to be a market for that... vascular system running at some astonishing pressures...

What TL can you grow them at?

Oh, and don't worry about heat management. This is Traveller, after all. We don't DO heat management.
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Skip the handwave, I want a herd of those things. Organically-grown bonded superdense exoskeleton or bones, no idea what the muscles are made of but there's GOT to be a market for that... vascular system running at some astonishing pressures...

What TL can you grow them at?

Oh, and don't worry about heat management. This is Traveller, after all. We don't DO heat management.
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