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One of my favorite series of Marvel comics in the early 80s/late 70s was the What If... series, as I did not have enough money to buy alot of comics then and this series allowed me to get the backstory (however modified on a wide range of characters).

However, there were licences they could not touch eg. the Star Wars universe. The weekend caught me speculating as I watched the series with my 4yr old son.

1. What if Obi Wan killed Anakin outright in Eps. III?
2. What if the Empire won at Endor?
3. What if Luke accepted his father's offer to defeat the Empire in ESB?
4. What if Darth Maul was not dead (ie. not sliced in two but pushed into the abyss)?
5. What if Luke joined the side of the Imperials in the events before ANH eg. becoming an Imperial pilot?
6. What if the gun was set to kill and they took out Leia?
7. What if Leia decided to cooperate with the Empire as most Senators did?
8. What if Han arrived at Cloud City first?
9. What if the Rebels managed to destroy both Death Stars before ANH?
10. What if Lucas never made Attack of the Clones but instead incorporated parts into Revenge of the Sith...and what would the 3rd movie contain?
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What if's are entertaining in discussions of real history (e.g. What if Napoleon was seven feet tall and breathed fire, and Wellington a 4'10" cross-dresser?) but pointless with Joseph Campbell Jr.'s (ahem, George Lucas') cobbled-together pseudo-mythology.
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What if the ewoks were seven feet tall and breathed fire, and Darth Vader a cross-dresser...?
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It would explain luke.
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Joseph Campbell Jr.'s (ahem, George Lucas') cobbled-together pseudo-mythology.
I don't get this analogy ... who is he?
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I don't get this analogy ... who is he?
big name in myths and how there are common types across cultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell

"Joseph John Campbell (March 26, 1904 – October 30, 1987) was an American mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is vast, covering many aspects of the human experience. His philosophy is often summarized by his phrase: "Follow your bliss."
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One of my favorite series of Marvel comics in the early 80s/late 70s was the What If... series, as I did not have enough money to buy alot of comics then and this series allowed me to get the backstory (however modified on a wide range of characters).

However, there were licences they could not touch eg. the Star Wars universe. The weekend caught me speculating as I watched the series with my 4yr old son.

1. What if Obi Wan killed Anakin outright in Eps. III?
2. What if the Empire won at Endor?
3. What if Luke accepted his father's offer to defeat the Empire in ESB?
4. What if Darth Maul was not dead (ie. not sliced in two but pushed into the abyss)?
5. What if Luke joined the side of the Imperials in the events before ANH eg. becoming an Imperial pilot?
6. What if the gun was set to kill and they took out Leia?
7. What if Leia decided to cooperate with the Empire as most Senators did?
8. What if Han arrived at Cloud City first?
9. What if the Rebels managed to destroy both Death Stars before ANH?
10. What if Lucas never made Attack of the Clones but instead incorporated parts into Revenge of the Sith...and what would the 3rd movie contain?
kafka,

You may be interested in the Dark Horse Star Wars - Infinities line. There are issues that take the movies and go off on similar tangents.

And on the last one, I'd speculate that the third movie would be something similar to the plot of The Force Unleashed.
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More specific answers to your questions:

1 - The story would be focused on Palpatine's discovery of their existence and attempted acquisition. In the meantime, he would have found a Jedi to corrupt to become his Sith apprentice.
2 - People would be happy because of the destruction of the Ewoks. Seriously, that would have been the end of the Rebellion as depicted. That was an all or nothing battle for both sides.
3 - The Sith cycle would have continued, with the two killing Palpatine or Palpatine killing Vader and taking Luke as apprentice.
4 - Interesting question. Would Dooku have been recruited at all at this point? Or would they battle it out?
5 - Easier recruitment into the Sith path if he drinks the cool-aid. Otherwise, its an easier path to escape and join the rebels.
6 - Oddly, not much. The only difference is that Luke would have succumbed to the dark side or died in the final battle with Vader, as he had nothing to rally around.
7 - No ep 4. And Luke may never be recruited into the rebellion or trained as a Jedi.
8 - Cloud City would likely be torn apart by Vader's forces.
9 - This would probably lead to a long protracted rebellion with the Empire eventually winning.
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One of my favorite series of Marvel comics in the early 80s/late 70s was the What If... series, as I did not have enough money to buy alot of comics then and this series allowed me to get the backstory (however modified on a wide range of characters).

However, there were licences they could not touch eg. the Star Wars universe. The weekend caught me speculating as I watched the series with my 4yr old son.

10. What if Lucas never made Attack of the Clones but instead incorporated parts into Revenge of the Sith...and what would the 3rd movie contain?
This would be a better option. Indeed, I would have Anakin become Vader and THEN father Luke and Leia.
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This would be a better option. Indeed, I would have Anakin become Vader and THEN father Luke and Leia.

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