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Old January 13th, 2014, 02:31 AM
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but what does a "miniphant" or "Magniphant" look like?
Miniphants date from the pages of JTAS back in the CT period. They are elephants that never get much larger than about 4 feet tall.
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Miniphants date from the pages of JTAS back in the CT period. They are elephants that never get much larger than about 4 feet tall.
I have that copy of the JTAS, in hard copy (at least 2 hard copy) and the PDF format from DriveThru. Article states that the Miniphants were developed and derived from the Terran Indian Elephant.

The Mongoose reference states that the Miniphant was discovered on Gram and domesticated by the Sword Worlders. Those do not match in the least.

Also, Mongoose states that the Magniphant is a cousin of the Miniphant, with it being either the larger ancestor or evolved into much larger size from the Miniphant. However, the Miniphant was discovered on Gram, the Magniphant is native to Beater.

I hesitate to determine how these mutually contradictory statements can be resolved.

Edit Note: The JTAS article states that they are about 2 meters at the shoulder, which would equal about 6.5 feet, not 4 feet.
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I have that copy of the JTAS, in hard copy (at least 2 hard copy) and the PDF format from DriveThru. Article states that the Miniphants were developed and derived from the Terran Indian Elephant.
And that's how we wrote them up in GT:Sword Worlds.

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The Mongoose reference states that the Miniphant was discovered on Gram and domesticated by the Sword Worlders. Those do not match in the least.
I missed that one when I read through the manuscript. I can see no valid reason for such a gratuious change.

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Also, Mongoose states that the Magniphant is a cousin of the Miniphant, with it being either the larger ancestor or evolved into much larger size from the Miniphant. However, the Miniphant was discovered on Gram, the Magniphant is native to Beater.
More carelessness.

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I hesitate to determine how these mutually contradictory statements can be resolved.
I suppose one could come up with an explanation involving both miniphants of Sphere Terra and a family of vaguely elephantoid species native to either Sphere Gram or Sphere Beater and then invoke yet more meddling by the Ancients, but frankly I don't see any reason to bother. My suggestion to Matt would be to excise the alien mini- and magniphants when Mongoose gets around to the long-overdue revision of MgT:Sword Worlds.

When and if you do, Matt, I have some suggestions for minor tweaks, BTW. And I will, of course, be happy to playtest the revised manuscript for you.


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I bought Mongoose online primarily to get the basic rules as I really like Attack Squadron: Roswell. I have been working on a supplement to it, using the data that I have. Should I send you an email regarding that?
We liked Roswell too, and posted it on our front page when it was released - some good ideas in that one.

As for an email, what data did you have in mind? Bear in mind that we did not publish Roswell, so if it is a specific supplement to that book you should probably contact its publisher.
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After than, any further interest in Mongoose Alien Modules evaporated permanently.
I'll acknoweldge some issues on Sword Worlds - however, I would also say that this book is not one of the Alien Modules, and I would hope you would find them markedly different.
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When and if you do, Matt, I have some suggestions for minor tweaks, BTW. And I will, of course, be happy to playtest the revised manuscript for you.
Drop me a line - we'll talk!
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Drop me a line - we'll talk!
I'll say this, Matt. For all the crap I've seen you take (and I know I've given you some, too), you always seem to take it well and are always willing to talk.

Kudos to you, man. Other publishers could learn something from your example.
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I'll say this, Matt. For all the crap I've seen you take (and I know I've given you some, too), you always seem to take it well and are always willing to talk.

Kudos to you, man. Other publishers could learn something from your example.
Cheers for that, much appreciated.

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Take now, for example. My eyes are near falling out of my head after a heavy session of editing the forthcoming Powers & Principalities (aiming for PDF release end of next week, but that is a _tough_ goal!).

So, I swing by here for a few minutes and see what is up. Anyone want to talk Traveller?
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So, I swing by here for a few minutes and see what is up. Anyone want to talk Traveller?
Huh? I thought this was a retirement portfolio forum? Am I in the wrong place?

I kid.

And I'll second the above compliment. I have issues with Mongoose and some of their Trav stuff but Matt has been the upfront face for MongTrav on the crustiest Trav forum out there. That's saying something!
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I looked through the Mongoose Sword Worlds book just now. Didn't see anything wrong with the book, other than I'd have prefered a hardcover of it. But it doesn't exactly count as an alien module book to get that treatment.

People will always complain about these books, no matter what Traveller system they're written for. To those that look for any excuse (no miniphant picture, really?) why not to continue buying books, I say "Waaah!"
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