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Old November 11th, 2019, 05:33 PM
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how does society deal with a small group that does not die, while the vast majority of the members of the society do die? Somehow, I do not see that as a stable situation.
heh. the last thousand years of terran history suggest that we just might be dealing with that or something very similar to that right here right now ....
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Well, if theoreticaanagathics would work to keep one youthful and prolong life to some sort of limit, perhaps 150 or so
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Altered Carbon addresses this, as does Eclipse Phase. Once someone can afford immortality, they go on getting richer and more powerful indefinitely. Compound interest for the win. These immortal oligarchs have an immense influence on societies.

So anagathics.

Traveller doesnt explain how they work, only that they do. So arbitrarily pick what fits what you want, and say well it just does.

Rationalizations and narrative justifications.

Something like, wull, anagathics prevent telomere loss, or stimulate mitochondria function, or whatever, but the human body is such a complex system that this has unbalancing side effects to the point where the body cant take it anymore, and people feel tired, go sleep, and pass away for no discernable reason.

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200 years of life with toxin buildup, junk food, stress damage, artilage stress, nutrition deficiencies, radiation exposure, statistical cancer risks, diseases, genetic defects expressing themselves, eventually peoples bodies cant take it anymore. Suicide could be another issue, like a noble with dementia wasting away in an asylum, but lingering on for decades.
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a noble with dementia wasting away in an asylum, but lingering on for decades.
some old codger who was an aide for multiple admirals and nobles who knows hundreds of secrets of great houses ....
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If the anagathics are not illegal, but simply expensive, I don't know why those who would use and afford them would not relocate to where they are readily available.

Sure, there could be smuggling of them to interdicted areas, but that continues to suggest that they're available somewhere. They're not (I assume) being cooked up in bathtubs in an RV out in the desert.
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What if anagathics are made the way they are in Jupiter Ascending...
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What if anagathics are made the way they are in Jupiter Ascending...
... or as in the Babylon 5 episode, "Deathwalker".

(tangential note: I want to incorporate the Dilgar into an ATU so very much.)
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In the Mongoose Traveller, Third Imperium Deneb Sector it notes an Imperial prohibition against nobles using anagathics. It isn't explained, but I'm sure that has to do with the destabilizing effects of such an individual accumulating wealth and power purely via extreme longevity.
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I figure that someone using anagathics will live only as long as it takes for an assassin to get to him or her.
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In the Mongoose Traveller, Third Imperium Deneb Sector it notes an Imperial prohibition against nobles using anagathics. It isn't explained, but I'm sure that has to do with the destabilizing effects of such an individual accumulating wealth and power purely via extreme longevity.
That isn't the first cite, though I don't recall at the moment where that would be. IIRC it has to do with both a stated desire to keep the titles in motion and with a cautionary event early on in the Third Imperium. Those of Noble family are welcome to partake of anagathics as long as they do not also hold an Imperial Office, thus encouraging those who want to use their power to live forever to hand the reins to the next generation and retire.
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