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Hmm, I wonder if he was influenced by Kzinti, Kilrathi and Liono because he doesn't appear to stick with the CT Alien module. ...
THAT is clear Kzinti influence:

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3. The Aslan encountered several other sentient species in this expansionist era. Primitive species were enslaved or even eaten by the Aslan; the practise of treating sophonts as prey continued for another five hundred years, until a great philosopher named Aewier convinced the clans that this was rukhiywe (un-Aslan) behaviour.

4.The Border Wars still evoke terror in many of the worlds invaded by the Aslan. The skies would darken with attack ships; huge goldenfurred monsters would drop down on grav belts to storm the cities; children would be taken as slaves and those who attempted to hide from the Aslan would be butchered or even eaten.

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I'm sorry but if that stuff is from MgT Aslan then it is worse than I thought...

someone either hasn't done their homework or are just writing their bad fanon into MgT canon.

I guess the MgT ATU is much more different to the OTU than I initially thought.

Or the author is a literary genius and is using the unreliable narrator to show the prejudice people have against the Aslan due to their oral histories and bias.
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I'm sorry but if that stuff is from MgT Aslan then it is worse than I thought...
It is from MgT Aslan.
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Trouble is this is MgT canon...
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I'm sorry but if that stuff is from MgT Aslan then it is worse than I thought...

someone either hasn't done their homework or are just writing their bad fanon into MgT canon.

I guess the MgT ATU is much more different to the OTU than I initially thought.

Or the author is a literary genius and is using the unreliable narrator to show the prejudice people have against the Aslan due to their oral histories and bias.
I'll go with the latter ...
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It is from MgT Aslan.
Then that supplement has to be considered for some alternate universe since it is contradicted by all other extant canon. It's almost as if the author hasn't actually read the CT Alien module, GT Alien Races 2 or DGP's Solomani and Aslan and has instead just wtitten up their own house universe interpretation of them. Or it is a brilliant piece of incorrect in-universe propaganda.

Like I said earlier the idea of deviant clans and the Glorious Empire are perfectly understandable from existing canon, the idea that the Aslan had a history of eating intelligent species and taking slaves is not backed up by canon.

I suppose the races of the Reaches etc are going to have a lot of scare stories about the Aslan, but I bet the Aslan who share a border with the Solomani tell tales of Solomani atrocities and dishonourable conduct too.
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Trouble is this garbage is MgT canon...
Thanks for all that posted. I'd prefer that the Kzinti stay out of Traveller apart from being a general inspiration for the Aslan. It looks like it's just the Glorious Empire that practice slavery but I could see the Aslan using prisoners as labor.
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Thanks for all that posted. I'd prefer that the Kzinti stay out of Traveller apart from being a general inspiration for the Aslan. It looks like it's just the Glorious Empire that practice slavery but I could see the Aslan using prisoners as labor.
Or perhaps as "serfs" on a landholding or as indentured servants bound to their "ko" (i.e. "lord"), with some version of feudal rights and obligations as defined by Aslan culture.

But not chattel slavery (at least not outside the "renegade" clans like the Glorious Empire).
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Yup, and then offer them vassal status and in the fullness of time the conquered humans actually become Aslan, able to form their own clans.

The Aslan are very different to Kzinti and Kilrathi - the closest literary match I use are the Hani from CJ Cherryh's Chanur novels.
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Yup, and then offer them vassal status and in the fullness of time the conquered humans actually become Aslan, able to form their own clans.

The Aslan are very different to Kzinti and Kilrathi - the closest literary match I use are the Hani from CJ Cherryh's Chanur novels.
I would say that assuming Humans becoming "Aslan" is more than a bit of over-reach. Aslan are a separate carnivore species, and I doubt would ever recognize a clearly inferior human in terms of size and innate combat capability as even remotely their equal.
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