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Old January 28th, 2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mike wightman View Post

Establishing your approximate position following a jump, with a working computer and sensor suite, would be routine. Take your time and it drops to trivial. Need your exact position relative to the stuff in the system you have jumped to and it will take longer to run the calculations and comparisons with the nav data base, but it is a basic trig problem.
It is so routine, I don't even have them roll for it unless they misjump and so then have to figure out where (in the universe) they are.
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I like the idea of a list about typical skill rolls. But I also see the risk that there would be unnecessary mentionings of rolls. So I propose that a gaming group should agree on when and what to roll and what not; based on this „memorandum of understanding“ such a collections should be created.

Also I emphasize to keep the core concept of skill roles in mind - (pg 56 Core Rulebook of NewTraveller): „The referee should only roll for checks when
  • The Travellers are in danger.
  • The task is especially difficult or hazardous.
  • The Travellers are under the pressure of time.
  • Success or failure is especially important or interesting.“

Thus a list with typically rolls should only list checks with target numbers of 8+ in my humble opinion, because the quotet suggestion speaks of noth else but keeping the number of rolls as small as possible limited to those rolls really required for the proper game experience.

Finally I wonder how many more typicall roles there might be, if I compare such a list with all the skill role examples already mentioned in the core rule book. So, what would be the point in having such a list, if there is little deviation from the aleady written examples.

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Originally Posted by flykiller View Post
why very difficult? with deneb nearby seems all you'd need is an orientation and brightness check. and it seems like a navigation skill.
The 'finding the Starship's location after jump' checks were from the MegaTraveller Starship Operator's Manual. Both Navigation and Sensor Ops were listed skills. Astrogation is handled a little different in MgT2.

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I like the idea of a list about typical skill rolls.
And knowing more of what the players and NPCs are capable of makes it easier for the Referee. There doesn't have to be a skill check. But the Ref and the Players don't live in the 57th century and they might not know everything there is to know about running a Starship or Space Exploration or hanging out in Startown. Having a more thorough task list would definitely give them ideas and examples.
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Originally Posted by flykiller View Post
well, what else would game designers design?
Many design settings and story hooks.
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Originally Posted by mike wightman View Post
That all said, a comprehensive list of typical situations that may require a task roll could be useful to a lot of referees.
Agree totally. And one point on the"typical situations": once you've made up a task, your players may expect you to be consistent - which is one of the few times I think a task list may be helpful.

Just make sure you get the _Players Who Demand Consistency_ to do the paperwork; i.e. recording the task, and maybe even recalling it. "Can't find the 'Scan for hidden starships' task? Oh well, I'll just have to come up with something [that will prevent you from finding it prematurely and ruining all my prep work!]!" ;-)
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I look at such lists as examples, not hard rules.

Also, to me this defeats the purpose of having a task system in the first place, which should be oriented towards rapid roll determination by situational criteria not hard definition.
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such lists ... defeats the purpose of having a task system in the first place, which should be oriented towards rapid roll determination by situational criteria not hard definition.
perhaps for novices. after several decades of gaming, many tasks should be well-understood and well-regularized and well-defined, yes?
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