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Old June 18th, 2008, 12:48 PM
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I just found this interesting entry on "Strange Maps", dealing with the logic of Chinese geopolitics. Essentially the paper indirectly cited argues that core China can be regarded as an island, surprisingly isolated from the rest of the world by geography. The large hinterland regions that have become part of China are natural buffers, extending outwards until firm geographical limits (Himalayas, jungles, deserts) make further expansion pointless and outside incursion unlikely.

This analysis suggests that the successor states of China are fundamentally different from current China, especially Manchuria. The heartland has split; this situation might have happened in the US if the post-Twilight governments never united. The interesting thing is that while Manchuria certainly contains the northern heartland most of it is non-Han former buffer states. Canton and China (i.e. greater Sichuan) are much more pure Han. I'm starting to suspect that Manchuria is not as traditional Chinese as it no doubt it claims to be (legitimacy is always valuable).

If we consider the situation during the Twilight war things went very badly: nuclear exchanges across the region, massive megadeath and no doubt refugee movements and disconnected army units on a scale that made Europe look very well-organized. As things settled down it is likely that the groups that did best were the ones that either could live off the land (such as Mongolians and some of the non-Han people) or military units carving out their warlord kingdoms. No doubt several ex-Soviet units were involved. So my theory of the formation of Manchuria would be that it coalesced from these mainly non-Han groups, took on the mantle as a legitimate continuation of Beijing and maybe used Mandarin as a lingua franca, but retained ethnic diversity. This is also why the Manchurian government retains the complex, nearly feudal approach it does, and why Manchuria appears to be much more open outwards than the other two Chinese nations.

To Canton and China Manchuria is not Chinese at all, just Chinese-speaking.

Another thing to note is that Manchuria does not have much great agricultural land; it was more or less forced into industry and international trade - which it profited from immensely. The links to Central Asia are also stronger than present. CAR would make the next logical buffer state if Manchuria were to continue the traditional Chinese system, and this is why the Central Asian War was so crucial to them.
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