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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:10 PM
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5E overall is an amazing system, and in my humble opinion, the best version of D&D to be produced in over 20 years. I highly recomend taking a look at it if your a D&D fan.
So, not as good as 2E?

How would you compare it to 1st Edition AD&D?
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So, not as good as 2E?

How would you compare it to 1st Edition AD&D?
I did say "in over 20 years". So I would say it is better than 2E, and yeah, better than AD&D as well. So let me amend my statement.

5E may be the BEST version of D&D since the blue box edition of Basic.
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I did say "in over 20 years". So I would say it is better than 2E, and yeah, better than AD&D as well. So let me amend my statement.

5E may be the BEST version of D&D since the blue box edition of Basic.
Wow, that's something! I've been ignoring it, but I may have to pick it up now.
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Just download the free stuff and play.

You will be hooked.

I promised myself I would just use the free basic rules and only pick up the PH and the Starter boxed set if they were on special offer.
Needless to say that resolution didn't last and I bought the Starter set and PH the day they came out

MM will be mine tomorrow - running next session on sunday and so far having a great deal of fun.
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I just downloaded the free rules, and as a long-time 1st Edition player, I had to find out how it compared. So I did a Find on the document, searching first for 'milieux'. Not a single instance! Well, what about 'milieu'? Nope! Not a one. It's as though they've written it for commoners rather than the educated nobility. Disgusting!
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I played it in play test and a little since release. Mechanics wise, probably the best version ever produced of D&D. A little too munchkiny for me though. The 8 hours rest to completely heal up a person who was totally mangled in battle smacks of kids video games. Same with the ability to possibly live through damage almost double your HP.

I'll stick with the game that Gary thought was a better D&D successor than 3.X...
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A little too munchkiny for me though. The 8 hours rest to completely heal up a person who was totally mangled in battle smacks of kids video games.
Depends on what you consider hit points to represent. If they're actual damage (cuts, blood loss, tissue damage, broken bones, and the like), then you are right, of course.

But, if hit points represent fatigue, bruises, scrapes, muscle strains, and the like, then it is quite believable for a character to be good as new after a good night's sleep.
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Depends on what you consider hit points to represent.
The same as in all versions of D&D. That's why it is munchkiny. Same as it would be if you house ruled it into 1st, 2nd or 3rd Edition. Apples to apples as I'm COMPARING to other versions of D&D.
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The same as in all versions of D&D. That's why it is munchkiny. Same as it would be if you house ruled it into 1st, 2nd or 3rd Edition. Apples to apples as I'm COMPARING to other versions of D&D.
They're all equally as munchkiny on that score.
Actually, older editions were worse - you went from just fine (Max to 1 HP remaining), to dead (0 HP remaining). The -10 rule was optional in AD&D, not present at all in OE that I've been able to find, and recommended but optional in 3e...

In 5E, 0HP isn't dead. It's "Check to see if you're stable or not"... And it's explicit that no injuries show until half your HP are gone.
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If we go outside of D&D, there are many d20 based games (based on D&D 3.X) that change the definition of hit points.

As far as D&D goes, I haven't read the definition of each edition, but I suspect that there are differences in different editions, especially in 4th edition (which I never played).

I do remember Gygax saying something about a person not being considered dead until about -3 HP or so in the AD&D DM's Guide, but my memory is very hazy on the specifics.
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