Traveller Store CotI Features New Posts Mark Forums Read Register


Go Back TravellerRPG.com > Citizens of the Imperium > Random Static > Non-Traveller Gaming

Non-Traveller Gaming A forum specifically for discussing those other games we like to play.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 12:33 PM
Leitz's Avatar
Leitz Leitz is offline
Baron
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Wretched hive of scum and villany
Posts: 2,623
Gallery : 0
Leitz Citizen+Leitz Citizen+
Default Squad Leader to Striker?

Anyone tried taking Squad Leader/ASL and giving it a Striker type overlay? Would seem to be a bit cheaper than miniatures, and you could use their maps.
__________________
Firster, Free Trade League
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 01:26 PM
timerover51's Avatar
timerover51 timerover51 is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: North of Chicago
Posts: 5,096
Gallery : 0
Visit timerover51's Blog
timerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizentimerover51 Respected Citizen
Default

Hmmm, I wonder how hard it would be to convert the Avalon Hill game Starship Troopers to something approximating Striker, or adapting Striker to Starship Troopers?

For more mechanized combat, I have both Panzerblitz and Panzer Leader to work with, along with the Arab-Israeli Wars. SPI's Tank might also work.
__________________
Link to Piper Sector: http://www.zarthani.net/ridder-mankind_to_the_stars.htm
Do you have a security clearance? New Blog Post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElI451TxsTg, 3:24 in.
I march to my own set of bagpipes. Caution: This individual thinks that studying logistics is FUN.

Nail to the mast her holy flag,
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 02:16 PM
mike wightman's Avatar
mike wightman mike wightman is offline
Noble
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 15,351
Gallery : 0
mike wightman Respected Citizenmike wightman Respected Citizenmike wightman Respected Citizenmike wightman Respected Citizenmike wightman Respected Citizenmike wightman Respected Citizenmike wightman Respected Citizen
Default

Ogre, GEV and Battlesuit are all candidates for getting the Striker crossover treatments too. The FASA Battletech:Battletroops game would work well too.

The 'selling point' of Striker is the nature of the orders system you issue to troops.
__________________
The beauty of CT LBB1-3 is that the ref is free to make such decisions for themselves.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 02:37 PM
AnotherDilbert AnotherDilbert is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Stockholm 🇸🇪
Posts: 1,026
Gallery : 0
AnotherDilbert Citizen+AnotherDilbert Citizen+
Default

I've never tried it, but using SL maps and counters for Striker seems to quite doable. The scale is basically the same.

I wouldn't try to mix the rules...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 05:43 PM
whartung whartung is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,872
Gallery : 0
whartung Citizen+whartung Citizen+
Default

Depends on what you mean by converting SL/ASL to Striker.

If you simply want to use the maps, then, should be easy once you agree on a hex size (I think they're 20m in SL). Then it's just a matter of adapting the movement rules to the more rigid hex format.

You'd also need to consider any issue with hex stacking and such.

If you're talking beyond that, I guess it's a matter of what you're trying to do. Pretty sure you're not interested in converting the respective Orders of Battle in to Striker vehicles.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 07:56 PM
flykiller's Avatar
flykiller flykiller is offline
Citizen: SOC-14
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: desert
Posts: 6,216
Gallery : 102
flykiller Citizen+flykiller Citizen+flykiller Citizen+
Default

Quote:
Anyone tried taking Squad Leader/ASL and giving it a Striker type overlay?
pulled out my old squad leader games last week, been playing them, was just thinking exactly that. maybe instead of squads depict individual fire teams. not sure how well it would work though, the ranges for modern and futuristic weapons seem to greatly exceed those of wwii.

Quote:
Would seem to be a bit cheaper than miniatures, and you could use their maps.
nowadays you can design and print and laminate any counters or maps you want. even started drawing up a meu of counters - fire teams, m1a1's, m198's ....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old February 2nd, 2018, 09:52 PM
pendragonman's Avatar
pendragonman pendragonman is offline
Absent Friends Margrave
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 2,908
Gallery : 0
Visit pendragonman's Blog
pendragonman Citizen+pendragonman Citizen+pendragonman Citizen+
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leitz View Post
Anyone tried taking Squad Leader/ASL and giving it a Striker type overlay? Would seem to be a bit cheaper than miniatures, and you could use their maps.
I have no objections, as long as they bring over Lt. Stahler...
__________________
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." - General James Mattis.

3 times elevated Knight of the Iridium Throne, Marquis Djar, Marquis of the Solomani Rim (Fafhrd), Count Uakye, and Count Jana. Duke Ninua of the Imperial Core.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old February 3rd, 2018, 03:44 AM
jec10's Avatar
jec10 jec10 is offline
Citizen: SOC-12
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wellington, NZ
Posts: 461
Gallery : 0
jec10 Citizen
Default

Conceptually you'd think it would be easy, but there are fish-hooks. In CT/Striker you remove casualties individually, and troops fire individually. In SL you're (mostly) dealing with clumps of troops. So you're going to need to undertake some pretty major surgery to the game mechanics one way or the other.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old February 3rd, 2018, 06:45 AM
Leitz's Avatar
Leitz Leitz is offline
Baron
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Wretched hive of scum and villany
Posts: 2,623
Gallery : 0
Leitz Citizen+Leitz Citizen+
Default

In military briefings you have "Commander's Intent"; in addition to the "what" to do you get the reasoning behind it. Since I'm not in charge of anything I'll settle for "Instigator's Intent".

In atpollard's game there's a space of off-screen time where Lt Cranston and some Dragons, assisted by local LEO, take on an entrenched crime syndicate in house to house fighting through large parts of Oregund. I visualize scenes similar to "A Bridge Too Far" and "Band of Brothers", with some slightly different technology.

The plan is to sketch up the units in Striker terms and play ASL a little. Avalon Hill has decades of conflict simulation experience and Striker gives me detail in the nit and grit. Maybe treat Lt Cranston as a Tiger tank equivalent with her plamsa gun and battledress. Sadly for her, there are civilians in the area of effect so she has to be judicious in her use of high energy.

In the end, between the mix of the games, I'll have ideas for scenes to write and a better understanding of the limits and issues the characters might face. I will likely do something similar when Triplanetary gets here. Ben Webb is thrust into the interstellar scene of mega deals and politics. What all challenges might he have to overcome?
__________________
Firster, Free Trade League
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old February 3rd, 2018, 06:52 AM
Leitz's Avatar
Leitz Leitz is offline
Baron
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Wretched hive of scum and villany
Posts: 2,623
Gallery : 0
Leitz Citizen+Leitz Citizen+
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flykiller View Post
pulled out my old squad leader games last week, been playing them, was just thinking exactly that. maybe instead of squads depict individual fire teams. not sure how well it would work though, the ranges for modern and futuristic weapons seem to greatly exceed those of wwii.
Even WWII weapons range exceeded their usage. Modern built M1A's are used at the 600 yard range. Ammo conservation and fire discipline shortened the usage ranges.

Quote:
nowadays you can design and print and laminate any counters or maps you want. even started drawing up a meu of counters - fire teams, m1a1's, m198's ....
Any good links? Just ordered a used copy of the ASL rules off Amazon.
__________________
Firster, Free Trade League
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Some interesting TL7 personal & squad weapons HG_B Ship's Locker 10 December 1st, 2010 02:09 AM
question regarding differing squad t.o.e.'s flykiller The Lone Star 18 September 11th, 2007 11:08 AM
Aslan Squad Card Baron Saarthuran Contact! 2 June 24th, 2006 01:08 AM

This website and its contents are copyright ©2010-2013 Far Future Enterprises. All rights reserved. Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises .
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright (c) 2010-2013, Far Future Enterprises. All Rights Reserved.