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Old October 6th, 2005, 10:06 AM
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Kang presents a bit of a problem... a dry world with moderate pop... low-tech, charismatic oligarchy and extremely high law.

We can make up for the small size of the world by having exceedingly tall cactus plants that our barbarians swing through and so forth. Stealing a thought from Foster's Midworld, we can have different ecologies depending on the altitude.

But how do we justify the exceedingly high law levels?

How can that be rationalized?
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Kang presents a bit of a problem... a dry world with moderate pop... low-tech, charismatic oligarchy and extremely high law.

We can make up for the small size of the world by having exceedingly tall cactus plants that our barbarians swing through and so forth. Stealing a thought from Foster's Midworld, we can have different ecologies depending on the altitude.

But how do we justify the exceedingly high law levels?

How can that be rationalized?
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Charismatic Oligarchy, of course, meaning "a few kings" who exercise power like... well, like kings.

It's hard to enforce, but maybe it's a system where the peasants have little but are protected by the cavalry, who are led by a council of chieftain-kings. Something like that. Maybe they're warlike, and rule through power and conquest. Conan-type stuff.

Alternately, since this is a dry world, perhaps it's something like the Egyptians, where the rulers are also the Canal Keepers -- and own all the water rights. So an administrative/priestly caste manage everything, and rulership falls on the Council. Again that council thing, but you get my drift.
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Charismatic Oligarchy, of course, meaning "a few kings" who exercise power like... well, like kings.

It's hard to enforce, but maybe it's a system where the peasants have little but are protected by the cavalry, who are led by a council of chieftain-kings. Something like that. Maybe they're warlike, and rule through power and conquest. Conan-type stuff.

Alternately, since this is a dry world, perhaps it's something like the Egyptians, where the rulers are also the Canal Keepers -- and own all the water rights. So an administrative/priestly caste manage everything, and rulership falls on the Council. Again that council thing, but you get my drift.
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As long as there's loyalty among the enforcers, it's easy to have a high law level with an oligarchy or monarchy.

What's with the comment about swinging through the cactii, though? Barsoom is a dry world, and its barbarians did very nicely, thank you. And, if you disagree, I have a barbarian friend (and her green, six-armed buddy) with a large radium pistol who would like to "talk" with you....
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As long as there's loyalty among the enforcers, it's easy to have a high law level with an oligarchy or monarchy.

What's with the comment about swinging through the cactii, though? Barsoom is a dry world, and its barbarians did very nicely, thank you. And, if you disagree, I have a barbarian friend (and her green, six-armed buddy) with a large radium pistol who would like to "talk" with you....
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If I may be as bold to offer a comment.

High law levels existed within the Pre-Christian Celtic Nations....most of what we know comes from the Irish and Scots (who really are Irish anyway but that's for a different forum
). The Celts were viewed by "civilised" nations i.e Rome et al as "Barbarians" with no culture because their culture was totally alien to the idea of a civilisation based on bricks and mortar.

The Celts were fierce, easliy aroused to war, barbaric (by gentle folk standards...they were head hunters) and extremely independant but an extremely rigid stratafied society...aka High Law Level.

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If I may be as bold to offer a comment.

High law levels existed within the Pre-Christian Celtic Nations....most of what we know comes from the Irish and Scots (who really are Irish anyway but that's for a different forum
). The Celts were viewed by "civilised" nations i.e Rome et al as "Barbarians" with no culture because their culture was totally alien to the idea of a civilisation based on bricks and mortar.

The Celts were fierce, easliy aroused to war, barbaric (by gentle folk standards...they were head hunters) and extremely independant but an extremely rigid stratafied society...aka High Law Level.

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However, Antaine, "by Traveller definitions" they weren't that high LL, as weapons were allowed to be carried openly AND concealed (skean dhu!) in many cases. That is a by-product of the early Traveller obsession with where you can openly cart your FGMP-15 around.... [img]graemlins/file_28.gif[/img]
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However, Antaine, "by Traveller definitions" they weren't that high LL, as weapons were allowed to be carried openly AND concealed (skean dhu!) in many cases. That is a by-product of the early Traveller obsession with where you can openly cart your FGMP-15 around.... [img]graemlins/file_28.gif[/img]
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