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Old May 7th, 2009, 08:51 AM
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Until a short while I owned the 3 1977 LBBs. Period.
I find a lot of people who like MGT are like this. They have little of CT (they don't have extended collections--just the basics), or they have a lot of CT stuff (say, by getting the CT-CD ROM), but they're not familiar with it and never gamed with it (or, it was so long ago, they can't remember).





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I don't consider Mgt as "flawed" or riddled with problems. But IMHO it's mechanics are no better and in some cases worse than MegaTraveller or TNE and it still suffers from 1st Edition sickness. And since I can get these two systems for the price of the Mgt basic book the question is

+ Why should one buy Mgt instead?
+ Why does one that already HAS MegaTraveller buy Mgt?
I see your point. You're saying that MT is superior and it's less expensive. I agree. And, I'd say that CT was superior and less expensive, by way of the $35 buck CT-CD ROM, to MGT as well.
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I see your point. You're saying that MT is superior and it's less expensive. I agree. And, I'd say that CT was superior and less expensive, by way of the $35 buck CT-CD ROM, to MGT as well.
You won't be happy until we yank the line, will you?
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You won't be happy until we yank the line, will you?
I hope you make him very unhappy for a long time then.

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Old May 7th, 2009, 10:15 AM
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I owned Megatraveller back in the day (and hope to again, actually). It was ok. I didn't like the layout, the ship construction rules in my opinion were hard to use. Character creation was great, the combat rules decent.

Having said that, I prefer Mongoose Traveller because it is easier to use (I did not like all those flow-charts used to save space rather than actually explaining things), I like the systems for combat and ship construction, I find them easy to run. I like the addition of event tables to character creation.

It's cool that both CT and MT are available on CD-ROM, but a lot of people prefer actual books. And a lot of people want to be able to actually order a book or walk into their store and buy one. PDFs are fine if you have a laptop but costly to print out if you have to buy your own ink and paper. So a "living" game works better for me than a "legacy" game.

Yes, Mongoose Travelller doesn't neccesarily do anything that hasn't been done before somewhere in Traveller's history...but it does it in one place and in books my LGS can actually get.

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Old May 7th, 2009, 10:24 AM
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Sorry but the "costly to print" argument against PDF is getting a tired while having become mostly untrue years ago.We live in the days of extremly cheap laser printers and you can easily and quickly print a PDF these days. Even more true for the older b/w books.
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You won't be happy until we yank the line, will you?
Actually stopping to miss-label it as "Traveller" would likely be enough
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Sorry but the "costly to print" argument against PDF is getting a tired while having become mostly untrue years ago.We live in the days of extremly cheap laser printers and you can easily and quickly print a PDF these days. Even more true for the older b/w books.
I don't have a laser printer and the definition of "ectremely cheap" kind of depends on your income doesn't it?

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Not really. At 70€ the beasts are dirt cheap even more so if you are a casual user with longer breaks between prints and therefor need to replace paint long before it is used up. When an inkjet gave out (again) last June we checked costs, took into account we would get a replacement for free but only a partial refund (german laws are great ) and ditched the inkjet. Currently inkjets are actually costlier than B/W lasers.

And when it comes to costs the 3-5 Cent/page are unbeatabel as well. For the 20€ I'd pay for the basic MegaTraveller Books plus the 10-15€ Printing costs (35€) I get about the same value I'd get from the Base Book+Spinward+Mercenary+Highguard (70€). That's half the cost of a laser printer.
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Sorry but the "costly to print" argument against PDF is getting a tired while having become mostly untrue years ago.We live in the days of extremly cheap laser printers and you can easily and quickly print a PDF these days. Even more true for the older b/w books.
Can't take a PDF to a printer and get a color copy for less than $100...
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CT has too many problems and contradictions. I'll stick with MGT.
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