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Old October 20th, 2017, 02:36 PM
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Default Twilight 2000 boxed set, version 2.2

A month or two ago, I stopped in at my local used book store to browse. It's an activity that I used to enjoy--the treasure hunt of the endeavor. Well, I got lucky and found some gold.

I picked up a complete boxed set of version 2.2 of the Twilight 2000 game for $23.99.

I've never played the game before, though I've been interested in it over the years. Today, I started to read through the rulebook. I see that version 2.2 was created to make the game compatible with TNE.

TNE is a game that I used to hate, but I've softened on it over the years. I still wouldn't care for it as the main background for Traveller, but as an alternative to the classic Traveller background, it's a good one.

The rules have always been interesting to me. I like the depth and detail, but I'm not sure I like the crunch. I've never looked at them very closely, but I've planned to for years.

I guess now, I will.
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Old October 20th, 2017, 11:50 PM
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The only major differences between 2.0 and 2.2 can be sumarized as...

2.02.2
Die1d101d20
base TN≤Skill≤(Stat+Skill)
Unskilled1d10≤Att
grants temp skill 1
increase difficulty one step
Task Levels3: ×2/×1/×˝ 5: ×4/×2/×1/×˝/׼
Autofiredon't have the books to check handy


It does not have the (later introduced) TNE declining skills per term.

Before 2.2 was released, the Ref's screen carried the task system changes (and the weapon specialization rules, which depend upon them) TNE was announced somewhat later than the Ref's Screen.
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Boxed set for 2.2? I thought it was just released in book format...

While it is a form similar to TNE, you take out all the space, construction, and so on... it's a very simple and fun game with good rules. TNE (or high tech) just complicated it the nth.
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Boxed set for 2.2? I thought it was just released in book format....
Evidently, there was. What I have is a standard box with a gold star sticker advertising the 2.2 version on the cover.
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Evidently, there was. What I have is a standard box with a gold star sticker advertising the 2.2 version on the cover.
Which is also how I got mine...
My FLGS at the time didn't get the 2.2 as a book only... so I've 4 copies of the poland map. (1.0, 2.0, 2.2, and one from a friend's discards)
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Hmm, I will have to dig out my first edition then and take another look at it.
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2.0 and 2.2 autofire is rolling for a lot of bursts, which number is derived by calculating the Recoil of the weapon, number of bursts fired, and shooter's Strength. Suffice to say you roll a lot of dice.

in 2.0, you roll a d6 for each potential hit, and 6s hit.
In 2.2, you roll a lot of d20, at 1/4 (or was it 1/8?) of (Str+Stat).

The highest I've seen was a character firing an M249 (RoF 10) with nearly-maxxed-out skill and Str. Forty-two d20 rolled through the dice tower. We had that many dice available, but we couldn't fit them through the tower in one throw.

And you keep half of the misses, to roll at any other targets that move through an area 4m on either side of the target(s), the length of the range bracket, for the rest of the phase.

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Hmm, I will have to dig out my first edition then and take another look at it.
Just remember, mechanically, 1E and 2E are quite far apart, while 2E & 2.2 are pretty close.
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Hope that you have fun with it!

I had an article for T2K accepted for Challenge magazine, back in the day, statting out a DC-3. Pity it folded before they could print it.
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Hope that you have fun with it!

I had an article for T2K accepted for Challenge magazine, back in the day, statting out a DC-3. Pity it folded before they could print it.
If you still have it, I wouldn't mind adding it to the collection!
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