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The more likely treatment will be with a genetically engineered virus that resets the aging parameters of your cells.
Sounds logical and likely
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there are some interesting studies for de-aging. I think it would be a more viral-like approach as well. Never thought about the "waste" products it could produce and, hmm, new rule: you can die not only in character generation but in age-reducing!

For me the biggest impact is actually societal as a much longer lifespan can have some interesting (and unintended) consequences. But that conversation does not belong here, so I leave with this study on reversing aging in mice at least:

https://www.livescience.com/57224-ag...ible-mice.html
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The more likely treatment will be with a genetically engineered virus that resets the aging parameters of your cells.

You go to a clinic, your DNA is probably already on file, and a virus - real or synthetic - is then modified to 'repair' your body via its own cellular machinery. This will require analysing the current state of your cells vs your youthful pattern.

You are injected with the virus and it spreads the new instructions to every cell of your body over the course of the cold you suffer.

Primitive versions of this technology may have... unforeseen consequences.
A virus isn't so easy to control, can mutate in the host. Nanobots are more domesticated and tailored to the need.
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A nanobot is a virus - a virus is a nanobot.

You don't just shrink robbie...

Put another way the engineered virus is a nanobot if it it synthetic, and it can be as 'domesticated and tailored' as your 'nanobot'.

Do you think nanobots will be completely mechanical? I am of the opinion that nanobot technology will actually be based on synthetic biology for a whole host of reasons.
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Do you think nanobots will be completely mechanical? I am of the opinion that nanobot technology will actually be based on synthetic biology for a whole host of reasons.
mechanical nanobots the size of a virus are probably not possible for many reasons so yes, most likely artificial bio units.
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Just curious, if you have anagathics, does this mean that you toss the "aging crisis" part of the rules, as your characters will not be aging, but stay at peak condition? Also, do you toss the whole concept of mandatory retirement, and let characters develop for 10 to 12 or more terms?
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Once you have anagathics, unless it's a one time treatment it's not just an aging avoidance it's the basis of your economy as the ultimate commodity, and it's one helluva social control device.


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Just curious, if you have anagathics, does this mean that you toss the "aging crisis" part of the rules, as your characters will not be aging, but stay at peak condition? Also, do you toss the whole concept of mandatory retirement, and let characters develop for 10 to 12 or more terms?
The MegaTrav and TNE versions have limits.
They stop increase in age for purposes of appearance and aging. They only prevent 2 of the 3-4 saves needed per term if apparent age is old enough to need saves.

Also, the first 4 years don't actually stop aging, but do stop the 2 aging saves needed.

So, no, the anagathics don't remove the aging crisis rules; they just make it much less likely.
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There are several scifi stories about the social effects.

I recall one short story, where housing shortages forces multi generational families to co exist in one apartment, with the master bedroom reserved for the patriarch.

As I recall the plot, there's an attempt on his life by watering down or replacing his age preservation medication.

The punch line was that his insurrectionist descendants are jailed, which they find rather roomy in comparison, which also reflects current reality in that the elderly now attempt to get jailed for board, lodging and medicare.

At least in Japan.
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There are several scifi stories about the social effects.

I recall one short story, where housing shortages forces multi generational families to co exist in one apartment, with the master bedroom reserved for the patriarch.

As I recall the plot, there's an attempt on his life by watering down or replacing his age preservation medication.

The punch line was that his insurrectionist descendants are jailed, which they find rather roomy in comparison, which also reflects current reality in that the elderly now attempt to get jailed for board, lodging and medicare.

At least in Japan.
I recall that story dimly. Maybe in a "Year's Best Sci Fiction" anthology?

Also Blish in They Shall Have Stars (Cities in Flight/Okie Novels, Book 1) mentions that the anagathic project directors protect the Communist spy to ensure that they will get anagathics too, since the social upheaval will be pretty strong, and they don't want just one side to be handicapped. Besides, the Soviets will be less afflicted anyway, because of the nature of their system means that it's less reliant on people retiring due to old age.
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