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Old March 6th, 2018, 07:50 AM
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Trying to ascertain is a canon (published) reason to explain why the Red Zone on Algine/Regina (SM2308) exists, prior to the Fifth Frontier War in 1107?

There are hints all over the place ranging from emergent civilisation, alien artefacts, ancient relics, and so on, but I need to know if there's anything canon that's been published.

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Let's start with what noted in the Wiki, which may not be complete, should be a start:
  • Marc Miller. The Traveller Book (Game Designers Workshop, 1982), .
  • Software: Megatraveller 2: Quest for the Ancients
  • Dave Nilsen. The Regency Sourcebook (Game Designers Workshop, 1995), 38.
  • Meshan Saga 7
  • Martin Dougherty, Neil Frier. Behind the Claw (Steve Jackson Games, 1998), 83.
  • Jon F. Zeigler. First In (Steve Jackson Games, 1999), 142.
  • Hans Rancke-Madsen. "Worlds Within Jump-6 of Regina". Journal of the Travellers' Aid Society Online published July 18, 2006
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Let's start with what noted in the Wiki, which may not be complete, should be a start:
  • Marc Miller. The Traveller Book (Game Designers Workshop, 1982), .
  • Software: Megatraveller 2: Quest for the Ancients
  • Dave Nilsen. The Regency Sourcebook (Game Designers Workshop, 1995), 38.
  • Meshan Saga 7
  • Martin Dougherty, Neil Frier. Behind the Claw (Steve Jackson Games, 1998), 83.
  • Jon F. Zeigler. First In (Steve Jackson Games, 1999), 142.
  • Hans Rancke-Madsen. "Worlds Within Jump-6 of Regina". Journal of the Travellers' Aid Society Online published July 18, 2006
Thanks for the swift reply. OK, points in order:
  1. Contains no information regarding reasons for the prohibition.
  2. Unable to utilise, even if I can/could find a copy, as I run Linux here, and Wine baulk at 16-bit software! Likewise, the wiki is fairly unclear on whether it gives a reason.
  3. I don't have a copy of TRS (yet)
  4. That's a best from any sours I can find, just the title exists.
  5. BtC apparently only lists what data was already availble from canon sources to that point.
  6. I'm trying to find out if that has any useful information.
  7. Missing, due for reprint by FFR later this year, if the release hasn't slipped.

Any other thoughts or ideas? Anyone?
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Since you've already done a lot of research, you've probably discovered all the canon. At this point, I recommend making stuff up! That's probably not the answer you were hoping for, but IMO, it's always the best answer. Make the OTU into YTU.
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Since you've already done a lot of research, you've probably discovered all the canon. At this point, I recommend making stuff up! That's probably not the answer you were hoping for, but IMO, it's always the best answer. Make the OTU into YTU.
Yeaaaaah. Problem is that this is background for a tourny adventure

Oh, and thanks for the fast reply
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First In has exactly what you need. Red Zoned because of a violent, low tech human culture.
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First In has exactly what you need. Red Zoned because of a violent, low tech human culture.
Yep, just had my oversight of that mentioned elsewhere too, so obviously I need to go to Specsavers sooner than later

... There was I, hoping for something a tad more exciting than grounded space fascists...! Oh well, it'll do, none the less

My thanks, one and all
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Trying to ascertain is a canon (published) reason to explain why the Red Zone on Algine/Regina (SM2308) exists, prior to the Fifth Frontier War in 1107?

It's the location of a regressed and xenophobic Terran STL colony. As such, it's protected from contact by the IISS to allow it to "develop". There's nothing mysterious or spooky about it.

CT's Darrian module states the Itzin Fleet spotted the Terran colony there around -1513 just as they had noted the Vilani colony on Vanejen and a few Zhodani worlds before selecting Darrian for contact. (GT later mistakenly claimed the colony arrived in -1000 which has led some people to "deduce" 2 colonization attempts, an early Vilani one and a later Terran one, rather than just acknowledging the mistake.)

SMC states Norris retrieved the Warrant from Algine where it had been lost aboard a wrecked cruiser. (TNE later mistakenly claimed he got the Warrant from Kinunir in Shionthy, but that's impossible given the dates.)
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I tend to discount most of TNE as being error-bound and thus unreliable. Guess the virus got into the proofreading systems, or something. Anyhow, IMTU at least, TNE is discounted for that reason. ITO the OTU, yeah, shot full of credibility holes for the very same reason, so again, agreed, it's discounted due to myriad errors.

ITO SMC, yep, agreed. Again also agreed on TNE dates - Kinunir was lost two decades or so before the warrant was even written, so how could it be on it? So yeah, TNE blurb discounted due to errors.

Which leaves the xenophobic bipeds from Terra on the planet, and the IISS blockading of the system for that reason.

Boring (the opposite of "wow, this is interesting, it's worth the risk to find out..."), but it does at least provide a plausible explanation for the prohibition.
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Boring (the opposite of "wow, this is interesting, it's worth the risk to find out..."), but it does at least provide a plausible explanation for the prohibition.
To misquote Freud, sometimes a cigar should just be a cigar. The reasons behind every Red Zone cannot and should not be galaxy shattering. If everything is special, than nothing is special.
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