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Old February 23rd, 2013, 08:37 PM
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This thread gave me an idea. Perhaps in days past there was a group of criminals that nobody knew what to do with and they were put on a sleeper penal ship and sent off... or were being sent to a penal planet but.... I'll let you fill in the rest.
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The US also fielded quite a few "questionable" individuals in the First Special Service Force, also known as "The Devil's Brigade" during World War 2. The book on them makes for interesting reading, and the movie was not at all bad.
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Oh, that's what that is. I was trying to scrape something off my shoe.......
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timerover, did you see that the guy who actually led the real Dirty Dozen died just a few weeks ago? They evidently weren't quite as hard-nosed as the movie made out, but really were a bunch of total ne'er-do-wells. Dude was 93. Hooah!
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This thread gave me an idea. Perhaps in days past there was a group of criminals that nobody knew what to do with and they were put on a sleeper penal ship and sent off... or were being sent to a penal planet but.... I'll let you fill in the rest.
I seem to remember a Star Trek episode featuring a character by the name of Khan and a ship called the Botany Bay, and a Star Trek movie concerning the Wrath of the same individual.

Then you also had the "galvanized Yankees" during the US Civil War, Confederate prisoners who decided to join the Union Army and fight Indians rather than go to a prisoner of war camp or being exchanged and sent right back into the Confederate Army. I did like Major Dundee.

Also, New South Wales, in Australia, was founded as a penal colony, with one of the early governors being William Bligh, who at one time commanded a ship called the Bounty. As a side note on Bligh, while serving under James Cook on his last voyage, Bligh did a lot of charting in what is now the Cook Inlet in Alaska.
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timerover, did you see that the guy who actually led the real Dirty Dozen died just a few weeks ago? They evidently weren't quite as hard-nosed as the movie made out, but really were a bunch of total ne'er-do-wells. Dude was 93. Hooah!
I missed that one. I do think that it was "Chesty" Puller who made the comment that his best Marines were the ones in the guardhouse when in garrison.
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I missed that one. I do think that it was "Chesty" Puller who made the comment that his best Marines were the ones in the guardhouse when in garrison.
I've personally heard that from LtCol Greg Boyington...
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I've personally heard that from LtCol Greg Boyington...
I suspect that more than a few Marines have said that. The following are all quotes of the Duke of Wellington regarding the English troops that served under him in the Napoleonic Wars.

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People talk of their enlisting from their fine military feeling - all stuff - no such thing. Some of our men enlist from having got bastard children -- some for minor offences -- many more for drink.
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I seem to remember a Star Trek episode featuring a character by the name of Khan and a ship called the Botany Bay, and a Star Trek movie concerning the Wrath of the same individual.
I was thinking of that and looked it up before I posted. In one place it says based on the TV series Khan and his group fled Earth on their own when he was overthrown and others like them were being persecuted and killed. Elsewhere it says in books by Greg Cox, Khan was put on the Botany Bay.

So not sure what the official stance is on whether Khan was a prisoner when he left.

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I was thinking of that and looked it up before I posted. In one place it says based on the TV series Khan and his group fled Earth on their own when he was overthrown and others like them were being persecuted and killed. Elsewhere it says in books by Greg Cox, Khan was put on the Botany Bay.

So not sure what the official stance is on whether Khan was a prisoner when he left.
Looking at the Wikipedia account of the episode matches what I remember and that is that the Botany Bay left Earth under the control of Khan and his associates.

As another example of a penal colony, and what might occur there, you have the Andaman Islands in the Indian Ocean, which figure quite prominently in A. C. Doyle's The Sign of the Four, where Watson deserts Holmes and marries Mary Morstan.
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